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    The Brewers Are Showing A Disturbing Lack Of Relentlessness In 2025

    Have the Milwaukee Brewers lost their spark in 2025? Is mediocrity calling for this iteration of the Brewers?

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    The Brewers defied all expectations in 2024, with many fans coming into the year bemoaning the injuries to Brandon Woodruff and the loss of Corbin Burnes as key cogs of the machine that created four playoff appearances in five seasons. Yet somehow, through what we can only refer to as "the Pat Murphy effect", the Brewers managed to concentrate on the small details and excel in such a way that they could defy all such expectations offensively and defensively. 

    Christian Yelich recently spoke about the Brewers' desire to create chaos on the base paths, to the point where even they don't always know what they're going to do. The Brewers had the highest baserunning value added per Fangraphs in 2024 (comfortably so), but since the turn of the year, they rank a little lower down in fourth, in large part due to players falling asleep on the bases. They haven't been taking good leads (on any of the bases), resulting in preventable outs at home and even more preventable pick-offs.

    Defensively, the contrast between seasons has been even more stark. Joey Ortiz and Brice Turang have been good, but not the elite defenders many would have hoped from a duo that could have been the best up-the-middle defense in MLB. Sal Frelick has been making poor reads. Easy drops have been made in the outfield, and missed catches have become a feature of first base, not a bug. It's been mistake after mistake.

    The problem is, this is the Brewers' bread and butter. Yes, they have a few hitters capable of going berserk, but that hasn't happened early in 2025. The starting pitching staff (held together by a thread) has performed outstandingly well, while the bullpen has seen notable regressions in performance from some key contributors in Joel Payamps and Trevor Megill. The defense hasn't bailed them out, and it just feels like the Brewers aren't locked in.

    They went all of 2024 without losing four consecutive games at any point. That might sound random, but the way the Brewers played, the relentlessness with which they attacked each and every pitch thrown, gave them the chance to win the many mini battles that can result in a win. They fought late in games, they tacked on runs when ahead, they did every little thing so well that the big things (like having a terrifying line-up or an ace on your staff that many outlets considered a requiem for success) failed to matter.

    The problem is, without that constantly clued-in relentlessness, wins are slipping between their fingers. This isn't the most talent-laden roster in MLB, and it wasn't built to be that way. It's built to win at the margins, and a drop off in the mentality that let them take advantage of those margins is a death blow to the Brewers' hopes.

    If they can't rediscover their joie de vivre, their niche, then this season will be over before it begins. However, the Brewers still have enough talent to make any trade deadline decision difficult. They may hover around that .500 record that can leave front offices in limbo through the summer. If they twist, the Brewers organization has some difficult decisions to make as contending teams come swooping in for their talent:

    • If the Brewers are around .500 at the trade deadline, would they sell any of their pieces?
    • If Brandon Woodruff doesn't want to extend his time in Milwaukee, would they trade him away (particularly if his stuff regains its former bite?).
    • What value would they get for Rhys Hoskins and Jose Quintana, two players who will be free agents at the end of the season and are performing well enough to attract a raft of suitors?
    • Do the bullpen arms (most controllable through at least 2026) attract some keen attention?

    The Milwaukee Brewers are by no means out of the running yet. It's only been a month. Yet, that month was not a positive one, and without that spark returning, they may struggle to replicate their recent successes. Perhaps it seems fitting that they're due for a down year — after all, this has been the most successful period of Brewers baseball in history in terms of wins and playoff appearances.

    It does appear that with a talented farm system, loaded particularly with infielders, that reinforcements are on the way eventually (though none of whom are likely to arrive in 2025). They have Cooper Pratt, Mike Boeve, Brock Wilken all around Double-A at this point, while further down the pipeline, the talent in Low-A and High-A is off the charts.

    Perhaps some new blood in the form of Jacob Misiorowski or Logan Henderson can add a spark of their own to the team. Maybe even a trade to bolster the middle-infield could shake things up in the right way. One thing's for sure: Something has to change if the Brewers want to remain in the thick of it come September and October, or a reset may be very much in the cards.

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    It’s tough when 3 of your 6 highest-paid players are out (Woodruff, Civale, Cortes), especially when we knowingly entered the season without an MLB third baseman or a lock-down closer.

    I’d like us to get back above .500, even if we hover just above it for a few months.

    By July 27, I hope we’re:

    - at least 3 games above .500
    - within 6 games of the Cubs
    - missing at most one key player amongst Peralta, Contreras, Chourio, Yelich, Woodruff, Cortes, Hoskins, Turang, Frelick, Quintana.

    With those ingredients, we can hopefully go on a run to snatch a playoff spot.

    Remember that we will have played 9 of our 13 games against the Cubs by July 30, including 3 home games from July 28-30.

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    21 minutes ago, Ro Mueller said:

    It’s tough when 3 of your 6 highest-paid players are out (Woodruff, Civale, Cortes), especially when we knowingly entered the season without an MLB third baseman or a lock-down closer.

    The loss of talent over the past few years (Hader, Burnes, Williams and Adames) makes it so hard. So some of this is on the owner for lack of willingness to invest in at least one star (and I acknowledge the prior attempt with Yelich backfired; and the excellent decision on Chourio last year), but you need to invest in players.

    The other part is I do question the front office - I mean last year looked great and the Contreras deal was amazing (that was still when Stearns was in consultant role?). But since then Arnold has whiffed mostly. While Devin is having his own issues in NY, he was considered one of the best closers in baseball, and we got an injured arm (one of those highly paid pitchers who is out for a while; but also one with an arm injury history) and a prospect who does not look fully MLB ready. We kept 40 man roster spaces for Jay, Capra among others instead of a home grown prospect in S. Smith. I will not pretend I knew he would have success at the bigs already, but watching him come up the past 2 years healthy in the minors I was so excited for a Mis-Henderson-Smith-Rodriguez-Wichrowski homegrown AAA rotation that one could dream on for a few years to come in the bigs. Now he is exceeding those expectations. Plus some of the FA signings, where Stearns seemed to jig instead of the collective jag of MLB GMs, and it worked, that approach is less well refined the past 1-2 years, as there are fewer real diamonds in the rough (Megill was picked up in '23; can't recall one since).

    Lastly the team has little heart. Adames is not only talented but was the vocal leader when he arrived in '21. Braun was that role from '08 - '19. I don't see that person now. Chourio is young and immensely talented but I don't see him that vocal leader (maybe not yet, maybe to come), and Contreras and Yelich seem the quiet, lead-by-example types. Even the pitchers - Hader and Burnes and Woodruff had that energy. Peralta still does, but the rest not so much.

    Anyway, the prospect pool has the talent, and hoping for better things to come, but this year's team lacks that relentless-ness, that heart, and sadly the full complement of talent. Bummer. But let's go Brewers.

    There isn’t a whole lot this team is doing well right now. They certainly could just be a mediocre team all year long, but it’s way too soon to tell

    Some records through 5/3 last year:

    NYM: 16-16

    SDP: 17-18

    HOU: 12-20

    ARI: 14-19

    All these teams ended up winning at least 88 games. I’m not saying it’s going to happen, but there’s plenty of time to get things on the right track. It starts and ends with the stars starting to play like stars

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    Early in the year last year, there were some that were saying the Brewers should trade Adames because he was in his final year of his contract.  We knew the Brewers would not be able to afford him, so the Brewers should get as many prospects as they can by trading him.  I was not a fan of that not only because he was adding value on the field, but was adding value in the clubhouse.  There is something to be said for clubhouse chemistry, but it is something that can't be measured with Fangraphs or Baseball Savant.  As far as I know, there aren't any fantasy leagues that have a category for "Clubhouse WAR."

    The team is young this year.  The Brewers have the fifth youngest team this year according to BetMGM at 28.31 years of age (https://sports.betmgm.com/en/blog/mlb/youngest-oldest-mlb-teams-ranked-by-age-bm03/).  Last year, they were 16th youngest at 29.0 (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/majors/2024-misc.shtml).

    How are the five youngest teams doing so far:

    1.  Miami Marlins:  13-19 (Last in NL East)

    2. Tampa Bay Rays:  15-18 (Fourth in AL East)

    3. Washington Nationals:  15-19 (Third in NL East)

    4. Cleveland Guardians:  19-14 (Second in AL Central)

    5.  Milwaukee Brewers:  16-18 (Third in NL Central)

    So, there is most likely a combination of lack of veteran "leadership" coupled with significant injuries with the pitching staff.  It is tough to be relentless time and time again when you are down 5-6 runs in the third inning over and over again.  It also doesn't help that Magill didn't close out some saves.

    My take?  Let's relax.  Also, let's be careful when arguing that, "[Player X] is doing well at Nashville, so he MUST get a chance with the Brewers."  The Brewers' margin for error is much smaller than most every other team.  Get more consistent starting pitching and things will improve...

    ... I hope. 😉

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    I think Bauers should see more playing time, in LF or at 1B..  He may add more power with regular play time.  And, I wonder what future there is for Mitchell and Ortiz.  Mitchell unfortunately gets injured before he finds a groove and Ortiz looked better at 3B.

    It has been seeming like a new wave of pitchers would be needed next year no matter what with Freddy potentially being traded, Cortes/Civale/Woody free agents, and so on.  So if we can't turn it around, it would seem like the second half should be about Miz, Henderson, Rodriguez, Gasser, maybe KC Hunt, Ashby/Hall, etc. to get their feet wet or prove they deserve to stick in the starting rotation for next year.  Lots of unknowns, but if enough of them are successful we'd have an almost completely homegrown, cost controlled rotation with lots of potential.

    6 hours ago, Samurai Bucky said:

     

    So, there is most likely a combination of lack of veteran "leadership" coupled with significant injuries with the pitching staff.  It is tough to be relentless time and time again when you are down 5-6 runs in the third inning over and over again.  It also doesn't help that Magill didn't close out some saves.

    My take?  Let's relax.  Also, let's be careful when arguing that, "[Player X] is doing well at Nashville, so he MUST get a chance with the Brewers."  The Brewers' margin for error is much smaller than most every other team.  Get more consistent starting pitching and things will improve...

    ... I hope. 😉

    Great post, but the paragraphs above make some particularly good points. And along with Megill failing a time or two, there were the back-to-back games on the most recent road trip where Alexander failed in what were winnable games, toiling as the '2nd lefty' in the pen while Hudson was in Nashville re-learning how to throw strikes & Ashby was hurt. And as for the starters, yeah. No one can guarantee performance but between Woodruff, Myers, Civale, Cortes, Miz, Rodriguez & Henderson (Gasser probably more of a '26 hope IMO)---that's a LOT of potential options to right that ship.

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    Before this team traded for Willy around May 20th several years ago, they began that season with a similar middling vibe. I’m not comparing the players on those teams as much as the team’s identity.

    Willy came over and immediately injected life and confidence into the Crew. He’s gone now and a lot of that life and confidence seems to be too. I’m not saying this is the ultimate correlation, but man he was a leader. They do not have one now.

    I simply love Matt Arnold and know he is hamstrung by Attanasio, but I will say he appears to be penny wise and pound stupid at times. Already knowing Yelich ties up such a colossal percentage of the salary, he has invested heavy money in Woodruff, Hoskins, and to a lesser part Civale. Knowing Yelich is already someone who deals with a constant injury, it seems unwise to invest so much in guys who are either coming off career altering injuries, or in Civale’s case someone who rarely comes close to a full season. Add in blithely ignoring the flexor strain Cortes ended last season with, almost all the money being spent on the big league roster is tied up in injuries or ineffectiveness.

    I’m not criticizing the moves individually. Individually I agreed with almost all of these deals. But collectively, we need to target other types of players with what little money there is for this team. 
     

     

    I think the team missed an opportunity not signing or trading for a veteran infielder in the offseason.  I also do not understand signing Woodruff if he wasn't going to contribute by now. I hope the medical team didn't miss something on Cortes otherwise the trade made some sense and it's just been unlucky.

    Thank goodness the team signed Quintana. The Priester trade is too early to tell even though I probably would have preferred they used that kind of package on an infielder.

    I don't know if the team should invest more resources into the team at this point. The NL is extremely strong so it will take a fair amount of wins to get into the playoffs. The good news is that the minor leagues is incredibly deep so they have options if they want to go that route.



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