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Managers don't allow guys to throw more innings like they did before the early 80's. Wouldn't that artificially deflate WAR for modern pitchers?
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If Niekro had a higher WAR, he was a better pitcher, case closed.The guy is asking for an explanation for what WAR is and you respond with a snarky comment that only highlights your ignorance of it. WAR doesn't tell you who was "better"; that's a very subjective term in the first place. WAR stands for wins above replacement. Replacement level is the theoretical performance you would get from a typical AAA "lifer", which is considered "freely available". If you don't like the whole concept of replacement level, just pretend it's "wins above average" because it doesn't matter what the baseline is when you are just comparing players. A win is toughly equal to 10 runs so WAR basically is adding up all the runs scored or saved above a base line for the player's career. There is one TERRIBLY important category that Niekro crushes Pedro in and that's IP (nearly twice as many!). That might not make Niekro "better" but some consideration should be made for career length. I consider WAR more of a value stat than a "better" stat. A 4.0 ERA starting pitcher with 225 IP is more valuable to a team than a reliever with a 3.5 ERA in 50 IP. "Better player" comparisons usually center around a player's prime years production. Niekro and Martinez have basically the same WAR/year ratio. That seems incredibly flawed to me. I know that Martinez was basically injured the last few years of his career, but Niekro didn't pitch much at the end (or the beginning) as well.
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Niekro pitched for a lot of bad teams, but he was not a very good pitcher. The only reason that he was able to accumulate the stats that he did was that he started 40 some games a year in his prime, never got hurt, and pitched until he was 50. The whole 'best knuckleballer ever' thing doesn't play for me either. Wilbur Wood was better in the 70's, but he got drilled by a line drive in the leg, basically ending his career. Martinez on the other hand was basically a late 60's Bob Gibson clone smack in the middle of the roid era.
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Who will pay a mid 30's Aramis Ramirez $16 million per? IF he stays healthy and continues to produce, he may get something like Rolen got a few years back (somewhere between $8-$12 million per for maybe 3 years).
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It doesn't matter what the reputation of these guys was, or whether you watched them play with your own eyes. If Niekro had a higher WAR, he was a better pitcher, case closed.
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Back in the day when Charlie O'Brien was traded to the Mets, both Julio Machado and Kevin Brown were PTNLs. I'm guessing that both were on the Mets 40 man at the time. -
Then who plays second?
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There are really no under the radar type SS out there. Outside of a few, they are either on competing team, are bad players,or are young and cheap. I was thinking of Yunel Escobar, but he just signed an extension. The handful of names we've been tossing around here are the only ones that seem possible. I'd be shocked if Florida sold low on Hanley, and considering how bad he's been this year, I'm not sure if I would be down for paying him $15 million per.
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Seriously, all this over the stupid home run derby?
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I'd rather be buying out K-Rod than Soup and Riske.
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If you caught a famous ball, what would you do?
RockCoCougars replied to paul253's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
I would think that you could negotiate a lower fee with such an item. It could be the premier item for one of their auctions and would drive traffic and business towards the rest of the auction lots. Plus it would be a feather in the cap for the auction house's prestige. As for why I would use an auction house, they have an established advertising and buyer network worldwide. They would also handle a lot of the headaches for you, and in the end all you have to do is deliver the ball and cash the check. As expected, Miller High Life and a sporting goods store in NYC have stepped up to the plate to help this guy with his bills (and get some good promotion). -
Exactly. Additionally, look at the ERA in innings 6-8 6th: 5.28 7th: 4.5 8th: 4.11
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I disagree, and I've watched this team plenty. I get that the bullpen has blown some games, but the problems at SS and 3B have been a long, slow death. Maybe not as apparent in any certain game, but over the course of the season, those two positions will be far more disastrous (IMO) than the bullpen.The bullpen has 20 losses already at this point. That's huge at this point in the season. In nearly every case, that means that either a lead or tie was given up.
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Some people are way too fixated on WAR. Watching this team, it's obvious that bullpen was the primary need, followed by SS. If Braddock continues to pitch poorly, they may need to try to find a veteran lefty as well.
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The Twins actually think they are still in it... and the scary thing is that in that crappy division, they may be.
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An extension really makes no sense for Baltimore, even if they wanted to re-sign Hardy. It's not like they are in contention. They could trade Hardy now, get the prospects and then negotiate in the off-season if they wanted to hold onto him that bad.
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Mark Reynolds is absolutely terrible at 3rd base. If we're going to go that route, we might as well move Braun back and try and pick up and OF'er. Better production and cheaper. Same with Wiggington...though not as bad defensively, he's worse than McGehee at 3rd. And it's not like either is lighting it up with their sticks. Murphy's having a nice year, but he's more of a utility guy to me who's playing well, and is cheap. So I see no motivation on the Mets part to move him. So there is a reason they offer so much less risk and are so much cheaper than Ramirez. They're not anywhere near as good. Ramirez could be a guy to put us over the top. Ramirez hitting 6th behind Hart, Lucroy 7th and then perhaps a Jamey Carroll hitting 8th IMO elevates us to the the level of the Phillies. Particularly because I'm of the belief that Greinke will come around. Ramirez isn't exactly the second coming of Brooks Robinson either. I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole, as I believe that he has 'overpaid albatross around neck' written all over him. I'd rather go with McGehee and address SS. Simply put, McGehee+$20 some million>>>>>> Ramirez... not even mentioning that the Cubs would probably want something of decent value for him. If you are looking at him for 2012, just wait for the Cubs to buy him out, and you'll get him for a lot cheaper than the option.
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I wonder how much there is to this Hardy extension talk. It seems like most of the quotes are coming from him. With all the prospects that they have at SS, and the fact that they aren't contending anytime soon,I can't understand why Baltimore would extend him without at least testing the trade market- and to be blunt, I can't understand why he'd want to be in Baltimore for the long term.
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I think the HR Derby has run it's course at it's currently designed. I found it very boring last night, and changed the channel before the first hour or so. Berman was insufferable once again as well. I think that they should do something different to create more interest. Take the top home run hitter from each team at a certain point of each season, and then have a few preliminary home run derbies at various parks throughout June (matchups based on the schedule.... I remember some home run derbies at County Stadium in the 80's). Get down to the final four, and then hold the finals on the night before the ASG based on the 60's TV show. Hitters use the same pitcher and an umpire calls strikes. Non homers and strikes are 'outs' and there are 9 innings of three outs for each hitter. Give the winner $1 million and their charity $1 million.
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I think if you are looking to acquire a 3B you start with Mark Reynolds. I'd be asking Baltimore about both him and Hardy right now (yes, I know about the extension talk). If Baltimore won't move him, I'd go to Murphy and then to Wigginton. Both of these guys can play multiple positions and have some pop in their bats. They are also much cheaper than Ramirez with much less risk.
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If you caught a famous ball, what would you do?
RockCoCougars replied to paul253's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
I think the IRS defines anything that improves your economic standing as taxable income, including gifts (I think that excludes gifts from relatives up to a certain point annually, but I could be wrong). I doubt the IRS is concerned about "publicity".Frankly, I think that the publicity will completely affect the IRS' decision to enter the fray. They may want to avoid the negative publicity such a move would elicit, or on the other hand, they actually may embrace the negative publicity to set an example for Joe Q. Public. At any rate, I'm sure that if they do go after this guy, benefactors and tax attorneys will be banging down his door and he'll end up paying nothing out of pocket. Unless he's found another way to cash in on his 15 minutes (interviews, etc.), we are likely only talking a few grand anyway, unless he sells/scalps the stuff that the Yankees gave him. -
No, we are talking roughly $22-23 million for 1.3 seasons. His option for next year is vested if he is traded, meaning any team acquiring him is locked into next year as well. In that case, absolutely no way they should even think about this.
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With the buyout, we are talking $10 million for a 70 game rental. Not worth the risk for a guy who is old and has been injured a good part of the past two seasons. What if you trade for him, and he hurts his shoulder again 10 games later?
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Too much money for a guy who has been injury prone the past few seasons. Why help the Cubs clear salary?
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If you caught a famous ball, what would you do?
RockCoCougars replied to paul253's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
I think he will definitely be taxed unless the IRS decides to avoid the bad publicity. I'm not sure whether the IRS would construe the package that he received from the Yankees as a gift or a prize, but they would both be taxable. Yet another reason that he should have cashed in on the ball.
