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  1. Kind of reminds me of the situation that occurred after the 2000 season. The Brewers were hell spent on spending money during that off season regardless of how weak the market was. They showed very little restraint as they wanted to prove to the fans that they would do what it takes to build a winning team heading into the new stadium. So, they grossly overpaid for an oft-injured OF who had just come off a career year in hitter friendly Coors Field. Hopefully history will not repeat itself. Although some will say that it already has in the likes of Suppan. This is precisely why you attempt to extend your own guys (Hart, Fielder, Weeks) before trading them. They are a known quantity and all have turned in All-Star type seasons. Obviously, Fielder will be tough to lock up, but Weeks and Hart may be workable. The Brewers have had little to no success throughout the entire history of the franchise in signing free agents to big money (relative to the Brewers) multi-year deals. I think their success rate in these is probably 20% or lower. I would rather take a chance on the homegrown guys.
  2. Again, just say no to trading these guys for 'prospects'. There is absolutely no rush to move them whatsoever. If you could get a major league by next year ready arm that has the potential to be a #1 or #2 (plus more for Fielder) then I would think about it, but that's it. It's highly doubtful that any of these arms are available. I'm not ready to re-enter a rebuilding process at this point. Some people are acting like this is an old 95 loss team, when most of the core of this team is young- and they are only 6 games under .500 after underachieving for most of the season. There is also a lot of money to spend in the off-season to extend guys and/or plug some holes. I just don't understand the need to stockpile prospects.
  3. What are they waiting for? Pay the man before he gets too expensive. He's becoming a legit MVP candidate in my opinion.
  4. Credit given where credit is due. Though he made me pretty nervous in the second, he got the job done. Come on Yo, let's keep this going tomorrow.
  5. Wow. Imagine..... if they get rid of more dead weight and trade Prince and Hart for prospects, they will have more than enough money to bid against themselves for another quality 'veteran' arm like Lilly, and they still can line up to pay Adam Dunn in excess of $15 million per.
  6. If the Brewers could do what they did in '91, they have a reasonable chance. That team went 40-22 over the last 62 games. Still not enough to save Trebelhorn's job, but a heck of a run. I remember distinctly a Molitor walkoff against the 1st place Jays. I believe that was the first save that Tom Henke had blown in quite a while.
  7. It appears that the trade deadline will be a buyer's market this year. It's almost as if teams are reluctant to add payroll due to the economy or something.
  8. I know most have given up on the season, but I still hold a small glimmer of hope that the team can get back into the race. It has seemed that all year long that whenever the team picks up some momentum, Wolf 'Soups it up', and turns in a stinker start putting them in a hole early. I believe that the Brewers need to sweep the Reds this week to can get back into things- this is their last chance. The Cardinals will be going on the road against a scuffling Mets team, but one of the matchups is Soup vs. Santana. If Wolf can show up and pitch a good game tomorrow night, they have Yo going on Tuesday. Point being, it's time for Wolf to earn his money.
  9. Off hand, I don't think the 1990 team finished only two games out, as I'm pretty sure that was the only losing season that Trebelhorn had.
  10. Even after the injury, I still would have preferred the deal Sheets signed with Oakland to Davis + Hawkins and/or 3 years for Wolf.
  11. Exactly. Everyone is acting like these guys are going to be free agents and they need to be moved now because they will be gone in two months. With the underwhelming packages the team has been offered for these guys (no one wants to part with pitching, etc.), what makes anyone think that their values are at their highest? Outside of the Rays, none of the other teams (Tigers, White Sox, Giants) mentioned have any prospects of real value that aren't already in the majors. At this point, I'm not interested in a complete rebuild for low minors pitching crapshoots- how much of that do you need?
  12. The guy has been playing pretty well lately. I say that they sell high and trade him for a 26 year old AA ball pitcher with 'upside'.
  13. Sure, I'll trade Axford....if some foolish team will take Wolf with him. That's about the only way, though I'm afraid that his value has peaked now that he's blown a save.
  14. Exactly. I should have been more specific, color me a skeptic on pitching the Braves are willing to part with. The only one that I can remember from recent history that did anything elsewhere is Jason Schmidt.
  15. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut here and there. Soup is doing exactly what he was signed for (from a Brewers fan's perspective)- stinking up the joint. Though it's amazing his E.R.A. with the Cards in under 5, his WHIP is 1.8, and he's now walking more guys than he strikes out. Duncan may be a miracle worker, but it would take more than a miracle to make Suppan effective- he should have just retired to spare himself the embarrassment.
  16. Why bother trading Edmonds? You are likely going to get a Ruben Quevedo type at best. Scour the waiver wire for guys like this in the off-season.
  17. Color me a skeptic on Braves pitching since Jose Capellan. If the Brewers trade Hart, they should choose the players, not the other team. For the Braves, that means Minor. The Giants really have nothing to offer outside of Bumgarner/Sanchez. They won't trade Bumgarner and I don't want Sanchez, so no go there. 'Two prospects' from the Giants won't get it done. I don't care if they are there two highest prospects currently in the minors. The Giants' best prospects are already in MLB.
  18. I hope that those cops and security were told to act this way, otherwise, those were the laziest cops I've ever seen. That one broke into a jog for about 10 yards, and said 'screw it'. I think towards the end, I could read the kid's lips and he said 'Tase me bro".
  19. Given the shelf life of Brewers closers, Axford won't keep this up for too much longer if you go by history. They haven't had a closer put together more than 2 strong years since Plesac about 20 years ago. It seems like every year someone emerges and does a great job- from Torres, Turnbow, Kolb, Doug Jones, etc only to flame out within a year or so. That said, I still don't want to trade Axford.
  20. Oh, I'm sure Soup pitched great. Had a couple of those balls not fell in, had the wind not been blowing out, he would have been just what the Cardinals signed him for.
  21. This is exactly why I think they should trade him now. The reason the Brewers got such disappointing returns for JJ and Hall were becase they didn't trade them when they had value, a mistake that very well could be made again with Hart if we wait until next year (or beyond) to trade him. While I completely agree with you on one point, the fact that the team and the fanbase is a little snakebitten with guys flashing all star type potential and then flaming out (Hall, Turnbow, Hardy, etc.) makes trading Hart appealing. That said, someone has to pan out, don't they? That's why I'm against trading Hart unless I'm blown away with an offer. Hart already has went through somewhat of a downward spiral in his career, and instead of circling the drain, he's made some adjustments this season and is pulling himself back up in a pretty big way. I think the underlying issue here is why all these guys play well in their early to mid 20's and then fall apart once they start to hit their peak seasons. Though some of it probably comes down to injuries/motivation after signing a new contract, it seems that this happens more with the Brewers than it does with other teams. Frankly, I think this warrants a look at the organization as a whole and how they handle young players.
  22. People here get too excited about prospects. I guarantee you that many here would trade the current active man roster in it's entirety for the Top 20 through Top 45 prospects from Baseball America. I'd be willing to bet that team would never be as good as the team we have now. Look at Escobar out there. He was a Top 10-ish prospect, who was supposedly major league ready, and he looks completely lost out there. What was Carlos Gomez' peak on this list a few years back? For every bona-fide star that comes from that list, I would bet that there are 4 flameouts like Nick Neugebauer, Alex Ochoa or worse.
  23. The 'We didn't think he had any value 3 months ago, and now we want too much for him" argument doesn't make any sense to me. If you went into the casino expecting to lose 100 bucks and walked out with a new car would you trade it for a nice motor scooter even up? After all, you didn't expect to come away with anything, a motor scooter is much better than losing 100 bucks. Some guys just take a little longer to put things completely together than others. Hart is only 28. A good example of this would be Jeromy Burnitz. He had been moved by two organizations already when he got to Milwaukee. All of a sudden, he's 28 and is finally putting up some big numbers. Going further, it's not like Hart has come from no where. It's not like he's Turner Ward or something and is putting up a fluke type year. He has had a few decent years in the past 20/20 seasons, All-Star game, etc. Now that he's no longer flailing at every outside slider in the dirt that comes his way, I think it's pretty safe to say that he's not going to go Bill Hall on us. After the disappointing return that we received for Hall and Hardy, I'm not ready to settle for something for him just due to the fear that he's going to 'lose it' again.
  24. I was fairly young, but '75 was pretty eventful. Obviously, you had the all-star game and Hank Aaron's return, but I a few other things stand out to me. The Brewers were very similar to some of the teams in the recent past in that they were competitive fairly late into the season, and then completely fell apart. I also remember George Scott putting up an MVP type season (though that may have been the season the fans started to turn on him, not sure), the Johnny Briggs trade, and Crandall getting the axe.
  25. Team management needs to be focused more on firing as opposed to trading at this point- especially trading a rookie who has been one of the few bright spots this season. I think we are getting a little carried away with this "sell high" craziness when we are talking about trading a rookie closer who's been perfect in save opportunities. Prospects are no guarantee, folks.
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