I don't look down on the profession, I look down at most of the teachers. Which is a shame, because I have a ton of respect for the really good ones. Like any job, there are bad people that work there. An odd thing to say regardless. How many teachers do you know? Yes, pay and benefits may have been tweaked a little but by and large you knew what you were getting when you started. So the claim of "I have to work summer because I don't get paid a lot" is exactly the type of whining I'm talking about. I'm pretty sure I didnt whine. I simply responded to your post about how I work year round. You admit pay and benefits have changed, yet we knew what we were getting into? Hardly. I turned down a higher paying job with worse benefits right out of college in part, because of the benefits. "Welcome to the real world" is exactly right. Every other position people work full time all year AND take continuing education courses that are required. (And rarely have any pension at all. I'm curious how you would feel if the company you worked slashed your benefits after 10 years, had you on a pay freeze for 5 years, and changed your payscale? The pension is great, but I also wouldn't mind a match system instead, but I'd have to look into it more. Your comments sound like people I know who think teachers have it great. Why should they get something I dont get!? We just want to be compensated as experts in the field.