"I love OAR though, I bet I listen to A Crazy Game of Poker at least once a day on average." Not to get to off-topic here, but I'm going to have to disagree with you here. As far as sheer musical ability and songwriting goes, Phish completely blows Oar away. Phish's music is diverse and they can play several different styles. Oar's music is all incredibly similar. I play the bass, and was and can figure out pretty much any bass line of any Oar song in 2 minutes. I could never do that for Phish. Plus, they use the exact same rythms for an astounding number of songs. Phish's jamming is about 20 times better too. Now, back on just Phish, I think they are a very good band that is stacked with talent ......... But I've never gotten really into them the way I have with other jams bands.