Fear The Chorizo

Corey Seager is a free agent after this season, so I sort of think they just locked up their shortstop for next year. The Dodgers are obviously well run though, so I wouldn’t completely rule out your scenario if they do indeed re-sign Seager. I expect them to resign Seager and then decide whether to stick with Lux and trade Trea Turner or trade Lux and ride Turner at 2nd. Dealing Turner in the offseason helps their payroll scenario and probably lets them acquire quality mlb pitching, which will be a roster gap they'll have. No matter what they do, they have unlimited good options.

Thats a good haul for a couple rentals....then again those are two damn good rentals and the Dodgers can just shell out more prospect value and cash to reload next year of both arent there in 2022. It's honestly like the dodgers can use the rest of mlb as a feeder team to fill holes all the while having similar financial advantages to maintain a solid farm system. Turner is under control through next season. Sorry, should have clarified my point that the Dodgers probably view Turner as a rental this year - I'm guessing they trade him this offseason and not miss a beat by improving a hole elsewhere on their roster.

Thats a good haul for a couple rentals....then again those are two damn good rentals and the Dodgers can just shell out more prospect value and cash to reload next year if both arent there in 2022. It's honestly like the dodgers can use the rest of mlb as a feeder team to fill holes all the while having similar financial advantages to maintain a solid farm system.

No more bats needed...get more pitching i guess?? Heck, if Yelich was above replacement level and Hiura tried hitting with a bat that could contact middle/middle fastballs they may have already won the WS by now this year.

I'm good if the Brewers focus any more trades on pitching, namely bullpen....adding Escobar to this roster with a healthy Cain, Tellez swinging a good bat, and hoping Yelich gives them something after he's off the covid list makes the Crew pretty damn decent offensively, IMO.

I can see Soria coming back here just based on familiarity.

Because it's a buyers market for position players this trade deadline, and they aren't getting close to what they were hoping for in terms of prospect offers for any of their fan favorite guys they really should deal now. Aside from Kimbrel, I doubt any other Cub players potentially traded away in the next 48 hours has a marquee prospect package headed to Chicago in return unless it's a mega deal involving multiple teams and/or players that has the Cubs winding up taking on veteran contracts (Hosmer for example) in order to also maximize prospect quality theyd receive, too.. I doubt we see a complete firesale from them, to be honest.

It's much easier to make the financials work if said franchise QB has no qualms about taking huge pay cuts and contract restructuring to provide salary cap space to make that happen - Brady has done that repeatedly throughout his career in both New England and in Tampa. Rodgers most definitely hasn't. And what's the point of taking input/getting roster recommendationsabout about retaining aging veterans if the guy making the case for them doesn't want to rework his deal and the team is salary cap-strapped with obvious younger all pro-caliber players they need to extend very soon before risking losing them? Would I rather have a handful of aging wideouts and offensive lineman Rodgers is friends with on the roster next year, or would I rather give Jaire Alexander franchise CB money to play corner through his prime years in Green Bay? Not really a tough decision as a GM in my book....

Yeah, many of these guys left because of the salary cap. We simply didn't have the room to sign them all. It wasn't like we didn't want Lindsey or Lang or whomever. They just got a lot more money than we could afford. It's part of the way things work. Maybe if a certain qb accounting for 30 percent of their cap really wanted his veteran buds to stick around he could have restructured has last extension to free up some financial room, or not signed the deal that made him the highest paid qb at the league at the same time when many of these players were not retained...

Biggest takeaway for me in that presser is I hope Rodgers becomes GM right after his playing days are over... GM for the bears or Vikings, that is Moving on from declining veterans isn't always just about money, and often the limited roster space is more valuable to allow younger players to develop and have a prime. This isnt college football where you can carry 75+ scholarship players and get cute with redshirting guys.

It just seemed possible the way things are written, especially with Schefter saying that Rodgers will "get to choose" where he plays in '22, that there is a sort of handshake agreement for Rodgers to simply be released after '21 if he still wants out rather than be traded. Based on his track record for this, if Schefter is saying he'll "get to choose", that means Rodgers will sign a mid-season extension with the Packers. Speculating about what potential terms of a handshake agreement between Rodgers and Packers' brass based on Schefter's predictions at this point isn't worth anyone's time. He's simply been proven incredibly wrong.

How are you trading him on what will be a one year deal? The same way they would have attempted trading him on the contract he had left this current offseason in the midst of a COVID-strained cap for many teams - any trade would be predicated on Rodgers being willing to restructure or sign a new deal with the team he's going to, or the team he's going to has massive cap space. Will the return be anywhere near what they could have got now? Yes, and it will likely be more given the fact many more teams will theoretically be potential suitors next offseason knowing a trade is a possibility long before the eve of the 2022 draft, and at least with a slightly larger 2022 salary cap that gives them room to bring in a guy with Rodgers' salary considerations. What if he gets hurt/looks like he is on the decline? A risk they opted to take after two years of Rodgers looking just like that and he won MVP in 2020...it's a risk but also one the Packers' brass was willing to take through the 2021 season even before all this nonsense broke. Heck, they offered him an extension and he refused, too. How much will Rodgers force a trade to a specific team? Will the acquiring team require an extension? Depends on both...he still doesn't have no-trade protection with his deal if I'm not mistaken. I'd imagine any team trading for him would want to rework what's left of his 1 year contract in order to both extend Rodgers and gain some cap flexibility, so I don't see that being a huge hindrance. The only thing Rodgers could do in terms of this is state he'd refuse to play for certain teams trying to trade for him and/or in turn refuse to sign any new contract with them.

Please define "badly" I, for one, am happy that there is now a logical endpoint to all this crap. This cloud of uncertainty will be hanging over them all year along with the media circus that that follows it. Anything less than a Super Bowl will result in more finger pointing. So pretty much the same as most of the offseasons from 2010-2021?

Throw in Watson in the deal and then send Rodgers back to Houston.

Honestly, this has been the case since about the day after Rodgers signed his last extension several years ago - the only change is we've all learned that Rodgers probably won't invite Gute to his wedding (along with his family). And the same was said at the end of Favre's run, really that rebuild was just letting their new starting QB get his feet wet and they were back to being a perennial playoff team ever since. In the NFL, rebuilding basically means you don't have a Pro Bowl-caliber QB and are hoping to get one ASAP....we won't know what Love is until he gets regular season snaps, so it's not worth wondering how bad a Packer team without ARod will be until that day comes.

We shall see. There are plenty of desperate GMs out there. There are also a good number of GMs trying to roll with a young QB they've drafted over the past 2-3 years (including this year's draft) who wouldn't have been in the market for Rodgers a few months ago when the draft happened and this news started leaking out from the Booyahs....there's a good chance a few of those young QBs fall on their face this year, and those GMs would then definitely be interested in seeing how trading for Rodgers could help their team take the next step and in turn save their own jobs. I've been of the opinion that even if Rodgers sat all of 2021, there would be more suitors and the Packers would get more in a trade for him next offseason than had they essentially forced a trade with him this year to either Denver or Oakland (assuming those were the two teams that even were interested in making a deal by the time the news of Rodgers' kerfuffle broke).

I think it also goes along with the notion that position player trades at the trade deadline during the regular season often don't appear to be for nearly the prospect price tag as pitching trades do.

The cynic in me keeps saying after Yelich's 2019 knee injury and that offseason, he and his team knew something wasn't quite the same and jumped at the chance to do a contract extension before the performance decline was evident on the field. There hasn't been anything Yelich has done since spring 2020 that is proving the cynic in me wrong, even though I desperately hope it is.

Yes, and I'd agree if this was the only apparent issue Rodgers has with people who would be deemed authority figures in his life, whether that be professional or personal. Tough to say its isolated when ARod no longer has a relationship with his own immediate family/parents. There's only so much 'benefit of the doubt' a guy can get before they start receiving blame for the personal rifts in their life, too.

True but we don't know where those rumors started. The Last Dance thing with Adams makes it seem like they are gonna have one more go around? Yeah, we shall see i guess....the whole Last Dance schtick and Rodgers calling Gute Jerry Krause makes me think they need to watch better stuff on Netflix at this point

Timing of what? Rumors announcing his retirement....could have just as easily been done months ago if he really was at that position mentally with his career

I've always thought Rodgers would be the type of player who would have no problems walking away from football earlier than most great players, before father time forced their hand. So to me the rumor about retirement does carry some weight, and I don't think this is a Favre-like retirement as a Packer only to get to a different team this fall. That being said, up until this offseason I never thought that process would include Rodgers scapegoating team management as the reason for retiring. Given the timing of this right at the start of camp is par for the course of this slow moving trainwreck.

They could create a character out of him, like an unfrozen caveman kind of person Sounds pretty bigoted against cavemen to me....

Sure, but the problem is they have no room to work a deal that pays Adams significantly more until Rodgers' contract is reworked/sorted out.

If a "bad place" is where the cap-hamstrung team I root for doesn't want to make a soon to be 30 year old wide receiver the highest paid player for his position in the NFL when they have younger all-pro caliber players at different positions they need to take care of very soon (i.e., Jaire Alexander and others), than I'll happily be in that bad place. I don't care how great Adams has been - you can't pay every veteran player approaching free agency the market extension in the NFL...particularly skill position players who have been in the league going on 8 seasons come training camp and during a two year period where the salary cap has actually shrunk due to COVID-induced revenue issues. Throw in the fact the guy who accounts for almost $40m of your 2021 cap allotment of ~$183M seems to be intent on making it as difficult as possible to effectively manage the roster in the short and medium term, and it's no wonder there's no chance for an extension before this season starts with Adams.