Yeah the Mac n Jack is the baseline of Seattle. When they don't have anything interesting you go "Alright, I'll have a Mac n Jack" It's an African Amber and the only one they distribute ('tho you can get others at the brewery) Or did you actually see a tap that had the rarer IPA? I've only seen that one at the brewery myself. Like all their offerings, I found it average and inoffensive. I'm putting together a little brewery tour up here and didn't even think of putting them on the list. The Manny's Pale on the other hand comes from the absolutely superior Georgetown Brewing. Which is where the tour is going to start. If you can ever get your hands on their Chopper or even better, the Super Chopper they are top 10 offerings. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2319/2907397024_892fdb319d.jpg Pyramid is Pyramid (meh.), but occasionally Pike's can hit one out. Not often 'tho. I'll make sure to make it "the first catch of the day" before the ion canon of beer wipes me out. My opinions of midwest beer comes entirely from 8 years ago where the only non-miller or bud offerings were Summit(eww...) and Capitol(meh.). When last there (two years ago now?) I could at least get a Fat Tire and Rogue was around in bottles. Still very little small local stuff. Here I look at the list and always try something I have never had before, there you searched for anything remotely drinkable. Has it changed? Remember most of my time was spent in the Twin Cities or to a lesser extent, Iowa. Wisconsin might have been a different animal even back then. Here there are little places around every corner. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3482/3723902494_a1317618ee.jpg It's pretty easy to find on tap, I don't know about in PDX, but here anyway. My local grocery has it in bottles too, but you'll need to go to someplace better than Fred Meyer's for it. My opinon is solid to good, not outstanding. I can't think of any California beer that has really knocked me out 'tho. I think they might be trying too hard maybe? I like the tasting Anchor Steam Christmas, but it's different every year and some people hate "tree" beer as much as I hate fruit beer.