As others are suggesting, it's kind of foolish to try and project the 2013 when it's August, 2012. I'm not convinced that the Brewers' 2013 rotation will be the weak link. Here are some updated ZiPS projections: Fiers: 3.28 Gallardo: 3.68 Estrada: 4.5 Peralta: 4.65 You have to take projections of young players with a grain of salt, of course, but I'm actually excited about the rotation next year. That is a cheap and potentially solid group of guys there. Depending on what Melvin does in free agency, we could see realistically see an above average starting rotation at a very below average cost. This is where I am at. I am actually pretty excited to see a home grown starting 5. If 2013 ends up being a tough year, hopefully we learn something about the above players. Then when 2014 hits, we have another wave of arms to pull from. Our offense should always be in the top half. (Barring injury) ... so to contend, we need quality SP's and a pen that doesn't wet it's pants with a lead. For me, I am excited for spring training 2013 to see Fiers, Peralta, Thornburg, Estrada, compete for their spot in the rotation. (I know Fiers has his locked but do you have him as a 2? a 4? Spring training probably will determine that.) Like rluz said, I am excited!