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  1. Thurston Fluff
    Not picking on you because plenty of people agree with this sentiment. I do as well. Players should earn their way up by performance not pedigree or whatever you want to call it. But I think Arcia has earned the call up on his defense alone. Players like Andrelton Simmons and Alcides Escobar are examples of players who didn't get to the majors for their offense. Arica is in that mold. A gold glove level defender at a premium defensive position has earned his promotion. Even then I would be hesitant to bring him up too early because he might be one of those rare players who can give you both offense and defense if given enough time to develop properly. I'd hate to set him back on offense just to get his glove on the field. That concern was mitigated somewhat by an interview I heard with the AAA manager a few weeks ago. He said while Arcia isn't quite a finished product offensively yet he is advanced enough that he can learn as much at the major league level as he could in AAA. Adding in what Counsell said about him it makes me think that is true. So all in all my concerns are alleviated by what I've gathered about his offensive development and I am excited to see him play shortstop at a level we haven't seen in a while.
  2. Thurston Fluff
    No matter how highly ranked, some prospects don't pan out. LaPorta was a top-30 prospect two years in a row. Go back and look at top 50 prospect lists from 6-7 years ago. It's not about 2 highly ranked players vs 1 ranked and 4 lower-level lottery tickets, it's about the fact that X% of ranked prospects don't pan out and that risk needs to be offset by additional quantity. Luc is one of the most valuable players in the game. Two prospects, no matter how highly ranked, isn't going to do it even if it is just for 1.4 years of service time. That really depend on how you define value. His value to winning games might be but his value on the trade market obviously isn't. I wonder if catchers are undervalued in baseball now or if they were overvalued in the past.
  3. Thurston Fluff
    2 things. 1. It's impossible to have too many pitching prospects. 2. Bickford is currently a 2 pitch guy and on the fence between starter and reliever. It's not like we just landed a pitcher the caliber of Jeff Hoffman at the 2015 deadline, he's a tweener with potential, he's more of a RH Josh Hader circa 2015 than a legit top of the rotation starter right now. That being said this is an excellent trade for a reliever. Guessing Giants are leaning towards thinking he's a reliever. Doesn't mean they're right, just why they were willing to part with him. Given how much value relievers appear to be they might have valued him more as a late inning guy than a starter.
  4. Thurston Fluff
    You are. Quantity isn't going to get Archer or Teheran. They are asking for multiple top prospects, especially Atlanta. IIRC, they requested both Yoan Moncada and Andrew Benintendi from Boston. Archer's price isn't much different. The package you proposed isn't anywhere near enough to get those done. Saying it's easy to get an ace is just unbelievably inaccurate. Stearns is doing it right for our market. You stock the system and keep replenishing it so you always have ammo down the line when you're ready for a shot. If we rush this, we'll just be the mediocre franchise we've been the last decade outside of 1 or 2 seasons. You know how we got Braun, Fielder, Weeks, Hardy, etc? We were awful and were fortunate to pick high enough to land those types of talent. It's nowhere near as easy as you're trying to suggest. Not every good team got their talent that way. The Cardinals for example never pick in the top half of the draft yet they always have a great team and seemingly endless supply of prospects in the system. We spend way too much time focusing on the Cub's/Astros model of and not nearly enough on teams that are more successful than those teams who never do complete rebuilds. It is possible and if this team is ever to be consistently good it is going to have to be done without top 10 picks year in and year out.
  5. Thurston Fluff
    I knew the Brewers did it once but couldn't remember who did it much less the pitcher involved or which position he played. You obviously have a better memory than I do. I did remember they gave the player of the game award to the manager though.
  6. Thurston Fluff
    So true. I really don't give a rat's behind how good the Cubs are because there is always a Cubs type team out there. Just be good enough to get in and see what happens.
  7. Thurston Fluff
    I don't know if this was mentioned but I was reading reports that Lucroy declined the trade because they wouldn't commit to him as catcher next season and wouldn't decline the option as an alternative. Seems like Luc was more than reasonable. He has always said his value is largely tied to his ability to catch and asking him to play more at other positions could possibly weaken his value on the FA market. Personally I think the more positions he can play the better but if he disagree who am I to argue? It's his life and his single chance at a big payday. He has earned the right to make that decision.
  8. Thurston Fluff
    If we can get a deal like Luc's simply by adding a no trade clause to it I would be for it every day, all day no matter the hassle it creates when it comes time to trade them.
  9. Thurston Fluff
    Why would it? Two ways. Time and resources focused on what happens next with Lucroy. Other teams sensing weakness and low balling offers for other Brewers trade candidates. They can sense weakness all they want but if they lowball us they won't get the player they want. Stearns has shown patience and none of our players are on the last year of their contract. There is zero need to trade them just to get something for them.
  10. Thurston Fluff
    For the life of me, I don't understand this mindset to somehow punish Luc. First, the Brewers included the NTC in the contract. They knew it was there, and it's there for a reason. Secondly, he likely has 1 solid contract in his career, and trying to get to that contract sooner is exactly what he should be thinking about. And lastly, at some point if you do want to get something of value for him, sending him down to AAA or sitting him only hurts the Brewers. You're still paying him, you get nothing from him, and you're further eroding what you can get. I understand emotional responses, but some of these are just short sighted and silly. Yea I don't get the vitriol for Luc either. He never once complained about it nor did he complain about Milwaukee's lack of desire for an extension. There is a reason Cleveland was on his no trade list. He doesn't seem to want to be there long term. So it makes sense for him to decline to go to a place he clearly has no interest in going. Even then he would have went but he wanted something out of it in return. Cleveland said no. I can't blame him for that either.
  11. Thurston Fluff
    IT did last season with Gomez so it can happen. But the chances of that are slim. I wonder if the Mets up their offer a little if it won't balance out in the long run. It's more working parts but if D’Arnaud can stay healthy he could be fairly decent trade bait himself down the road. Maybe two years of him would net us enough to compensate for the lack of prospects in the Luc deal. Not ideal but possible.
  12. Thurston Fluff
    The value of relievers has been rising for a while now and it doesn't have squat to do with the time of year. KC showed that three great relievers can overcome a pedestrian starting rotation. Now everybody wants a great bullpen. I doubt that trend is going to stop in the middle of this season.
  13. Thurston Fluff
    Fair point. Be kind of funny to do it again and turn the baseball world upside down. Suck til you don't might be the new way if that happens.
  14. Thurston Fluff
    Dude was a minimum wage guy and convenient store sushi is the same in every dimension.
  15. Thurston Fluff
    I just can't figure out how no one waved their hands and just said, "This is a horrible trade! This is a horrible trade!" I realize they wanted a guy they felt was a top of the rotation type player, but even running the deal by a couple of semi knowledgable fans would have caused them concern. Just weird. Even thought Tony La Russa is human garbage, he's still a pretty smart and forward thinking baseball guy. I can't believe he supports most of what Stewart has done. Are we talking about the same La Russa? The old Cards manager who wrote the unwritten book of rules? Hard to be more backward thinking than that.
  16. Thurston Fluff
    Two questions. 1-Does Dave Nilson count as a catcher? Dude could have hit like Bonds and it still might not make up for his defense. 2- Is counting what he did as a manager count with Yost or is it only what he did as catcher? I'm asking just to get the ground rules set.
  17. Thurston Fluff
    Thanks for the explanation MrTPlush. My wife decided to download the app and looked up our location. It gives a short bio of of the landmark (or whatever it's called.) They called it an icon in Appleton and told the story of someone stealing it a few years ago and that it was found because they bragged about it online. No idea who did it but frankly we are touched someone thought of us unsolicited let alone provide that nice write up. Minor, and very local, celebrity status here we come!!! All in all I like the idea of the game. Get people out walking instead of sitting around. Getting a little feel/history of the neighborhood you are in can't hurt either.
  18. Thurston Fluff
    If every player eliminates their worst trait the team will be better. Problem is every player has flaws some are just more obvious than others. One other thing we should keep in mind is aggressive base running isn't the only way to make stupid mistakes on the base paths, just the most noticeable. Not taking second when you could then the next guy comes up and hits into a double play is also stupid base running. But nobody notices that. Ditto for not going first to third when you can or tagging and moving up a base when you can. Those are all also mistakes but they never get noticed or counted against the conservative base runner.
  19. Thurston Fluff
    Breaking them down: 3 at first, 5 at 3rd (!!) and 2 at home. By comparison, Lucroy, Braun and Carter have made a total of 8 outs on the bases. This doesn't take into account how many times his base running added something the other three do not. If for instance he added more runs due to his base running than the other three combined that kind of changes the picture doesn't it?
  20. Thurston Fluff
    A couple things. The first is what is the advantage to holding onto Hill for a couple more weeks? It is as likely we get less for him than more. Hill could get hurt, have a two week long slump or Boston may have found someone else which takes one potential trade partner away. When someone is willing to give you the asking price you don't wait to see if someone is willing to give up more without significant risk of not getting that much ever again. Second, while chase Anderson isn't pitching well I don't see how starting him in his regular slot is somehow a sign of tanking. He has enough of a track record to think he is a viable major league starter and a few bad starts does not change that. Not to mention the other options are either worse, untested or bringing them up is a complete waste of service time.
  21. Thurston Fluff
    What the hell is pokemon go? I just found out apparently the gorilla we have outside our store is a marker or something of the sort in it. Most importantly does it make us cool?
  22. Thurston Fluff
    While they are not in that position at least it should end the debate about the Brewers intentionally tanking. Teams who are looking to lose as many games as possible don't make moves like this. If it does settle that debate then these 5+ pages will be a small price to pay.
  23. Thurston Fluff
    THis is where I stand on it. IF they had it to you take it. A passed ball, wild pitch, infield hit or error can score you on third but not second. But there should be no question that he would be safe. Yesterday Villar stole third and was safe but only because the defender dropped the ball. That was not a good steal even though it worked. Had he went to second without a throw or was safe by two steps I wouldn't have had a problem with it. On a side note how cool was it to see the Brewers run all over on Molina yesterday? I don't know how many times that many players stole bases on him in his career but it couldn't be many. I hope he had a terrible night's sleep over it.
  24. Thurston Fluff
    You summed it up nicely Robert. Not only is Davies ticked off, other guys take notice. They know Davies has performed to a level that deserves better. I just don't buy this line of thinking. Players also take notice that someone else is getting his 15 minutes. Davies will have more than 15 minutes when all is said and done. Wilkens probably not. They also notice that Wilkens has accrued some major league service time and will be 10 days closer to a pension. A pension mind you that will pay him more than the $24,000 Davies lost every year for the rest of his life once he hits retirement age. That matters to players. It's obvious this wasn't about money and players can see that too. And lets stop pretending players only care about other major league players and couldn't give a rat's behind less about the career miner leaguer or fringe players. All these players came up through the system and know how many players never get a shot. These players don't just become friends with other players destined to have long major league careers. They all have friends that will never see the light of day on a major league roster. So I have little doubt they also understand that, while it's 10 days of suckitude for Davies, it's a great time for Wilkens. Add to that Davies has a lot more days ahead of him and Wilkens may never see another day in the majors again. If he does I doubt it will be nearly as many of Davies. They are just as happy for Wilkens as they are sad for Davies.
  25. Thurston Fluff
    If I was an Arizona fan I would be very concerned where they are headed. They spend like they are all in, but refuse to give up a first round draft pick to fill another need only to turn around and trade a couple prospects to fill that same need.
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