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I think Yelich and Braun both show it's possible. Granted Yelich is not a life long brewer and Braun will never be in the HOF due to PEDs but both show the Brewers can afford to and are willing under the right circumstances.

I never disputed his talent. Just that for the majority of the season so far he had trouble going through the order more than once. I think my point got lost in that even if he never reached his potential and never was more than an innings eating middle reliever he still would provide more for the brewers than one season on Peralta. I'm not saying he never will be more than that. Just that even if he wasn't it would still be a worthwhile trade. Not the best possible trade. Just that we got more value for our team than we gave up.

Maybe but probably not. I assume if they signed with one of those leagues they'd be subject to the same posting agreement as all the other players in the league are. Setting that aside, if they're goal is to get drafted ASAP spending time in the minors there wouldn't give them any more exposure to scouting than going to an independent league here.

Anyone would. One start doesn't erase what he was until then nor mean he's not going to struggle to go longer again. To be clear my point wasn't that Sproat isn't ever going to be a quality starter. It was that even if he was only ever a once through the order guy he was more valauble to the Brewers than one season of Peralta.

Maybe it's just my impression but it seems like Sproat starts to struggle after a couple innings. All things considered, if he ended up being just a multi inning reliever and Williams never panned out at all I'd still consider it a win.

Just to clarify, MLB isn't requiring two year of college. Players can shoose to go to an independant leauge. I'd think some of them would be more than willing to work with MLB to become more of a true developmental league. Unlike football, the infrastructure is already there. Scouts already go there. Teams already sign players from them. They also have the advantage of using wooden bats, and generally follow the same rules. There is nothing forcing players to go to college. If I was a baseball player who was only going to college for a couple years until I got drafted I'd probably want to go to a place that was 24/7 baseball using all the equipment and rules of the league I wanted to get drafted into. As far as the players coming over from Japanese and Korean leagues via posting goes. I don't think the international draft was meant to include professional players from other leagues as much as amateurs in other countries. I think the draft is more about players who aren't under contract to another pro league.

If it was so obvious it couldn't work they wouldn't be proposing it. I have no idea why you say there's no way to bind them but it's patently false. They bind them by saying you either follow our rules or you don't get a shot to play in our league. That's pretty simple and straight forward. There's no reason to believe all those players are going to say no to an opportunity at life changing money because of some abstract idea that some day by all sticking together they can force a multi billion dollar business to change how they operate. I'd get your argument if you limited it to drafting players from existing pro leagues like they have in Korea or Japan but it's not. It's about drafting young amateur players who aren't playing professional ball.

Of course I'm taking you literally. How else should I take your concerns? Am I supposed to divine some unsubscribed hidden meaning? It's on you to say what you mean and mean what you say. My point is US players have every option available to them as international players do plus one. Yet there are plenty of eligible players worthy of being drafted. You're making up a problem in your head that is fairly obviously nonexistent. Assuming you're not just arguing to argue, how many players a year do you think fits into the Soto or Acuna category? Of that small subset how many are going to have a demand to only go to a couple teams? The vast majority will be there and willing to go whatever team drafts them and pays them. What there won't be is such a huge number of players refusing to sign to make a draft bereft of players worthy of being drafted and paid. Especially when you don't even know if or what the slot money would be. For the few who decide they're can't miss players I'd guess the team who drafts them, as well as their agents, will remind them for every Juan Soto there's a couple Yiddi Cappe's. Any minor problems due to a very small subset of players refusing to participate can be fixed like they did for players who refuse to sign in the US draft now.

Somehow I don't think most international players have the leverage of a full scholarship offer.

How is that any different than the top US players? Strasburg could just as easily said I only want to be drafted by the Dodgers or Yankees and waited until he eventually got drafted by one of them. I seriously doubt any player is going to risk not ever getting drafted by their preferred teams and potentially set their career back if not outright destroy them..

I don't think you'll find many players in Latin American countries who won't sign. Their choices aren't the same as the Japanese or Korean leagues are. I seriously doubt a 17 year old kid is going to say no to an opportunity to get life changing money. Setting that aside, there are plenty of scouts and academies who already know them enough to know which ones are going to be a problem to sign. It's not going to be the problem to find signable players as you seem to think it is.

I'm not that worried about losing the advantage we've had by our draft strategy. Every other team saw what we were doing and were bound to copy our strategy. Finding and exploiting market inefficiencies is a never ending cycle. Today's cheap route is tomorrows expensive one. I don't like the idea of not allowing high school kids to be drafted. Mostly because I don't think it's fair to postpone people who from getting potentially seven figures for two year for arbitrary reasons. There's a system in place to deal with kids that age and there's no good reason not to use it. That said I don't think it means colleges will turn into developmental leagues more than they are today. Teams already scout independent leagues do there is a viable route outside college. When it comes to an international draft I'd prefer they just have on draft and be done with it. I get the problem with the age differences between the two but that could be worked out. If there is two separate drafts fine. I don't think it will hurt the Brewers much. It's the scouting and player development in those areas that helped the Brewers succeed there. The draft reduced to 12 rounds may end up becoming a market inefficiency the Brewers can exploit so I'm not at all concerned about it. Overall, the Brewers are successful because they're a well run organization. Whatever rules are in place it will find a way to make the most of it. If there's total revenue sharing of tv money a floor won't hurt. Aside from a floor with no revenue sharing, I think the Brewers can operate effectively even if some of their current strategies won't work as well.

Yea I don't blame them for trying. It was a low cost gamble at a position of need. It's better to cut our losses now than compound the mistake. I hope he catches on somewhere and turns it around. I could see some out of contention team taking a flyer on him getting hot in an attempt to flip him for a lottery ticket or maybe someone they can plug in anticipating a need because they're going to trade someone else.

IOW, MLB (CBA + DFA) +LR +CP = DFA - LR + CP. Did I get that right? 😄 Truth be told, I don't think calling Pratt up in the middle of the game had anything to do with Renigfro's health status. I don't think they saw him have some minor injury, where he didn't even come out of the game, then decided they had to get to a phone immediately and tell Pratt the moment had come. I'd imagine him being 15 abs away from a $100k bonus and an added $100K every 50 ab's after that was a bigger factor.