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Not sure if any of you guys have seen this on the Topps site yet, but here is the Brewers section of the website. http://www.topps.com/team/mlb/national-league/milwaukee-brewers.html Neat stuff I guess.

Couldn't agree more. I've been listening to Lepay and Lucas do football and basketball for years. The seamless transition from one sport to the next makes him special in my eyes. I keep expecting him to say, if someone goes first to third on a hit, "He's to the 30, to the 40, Braun to midfield, the 40, the 30. Braun finally taken down at the 25. First Down Brewers!"

They only gave 500 of them out and it was his mini bobble from last year. Only available at Maryvale. My father-in-law went.

Great post 'stache. Sometimes I need to read stuff like your post to realize the homer inside me isn't blurring the vision of how great I thought Yount was. He's my favorite. I have over 9,000 of his baseball cards, over 1,300 different ones (who'd have thought he'd have more baseball cards produced after he retired than while he was playing?!) Sadly, his retirement crushed me so much I tuned the Brewers out more than I should have in the mid to late '90's. As for Cooper, the guy was a stud. Very underrated, very underappreciated. Nonetheless, he didn't get regular at bats until he was 24, Trebelhorn kicked him out when he was only 37 because Greg Brock had dirty pictures of him and Bo Black, and his overall career numbers aren't as good as Jim Rice's, whom many consider a borderline HOFer. Not to mention Rice did it in only 16 years compared to Coop's 17. Quick story on Yount. Not sure if any of you guys remember, or knew, a guy by the name of Rob Derksen. Rob was a Brewers farmhand for a few years, then went on to coach the Australian Olympic Baseball Team and almost got tiny, little Guam into the olympics in 2000. He was also a scout for Baltimore, I believe, in charge of scouting the Pacific Rim. Rob used to stay at Robin's house during the off season when he would go back to Scotsdale. After Yount retired, Rob ended up buying the house. A few years back, I was lucky enough to do some service work on Yount's old house in Hales Corners. That's where I met Rob. He told me that finally after a few years and numerous phone calls, Yount finally came back over to the house to pick up his MVP trophies. They were right where Robin left them....under his bed collecting dust.

[sarcasm]everything was probably good to go until Doug asked him if he's ever played first base before[/sarcasm] I laughed so hard, I spit my coffee all over my computer. Great post torts! Absolutely hilarious!

Not sure why Loney would be so terrible. He's lefty for starters. Incredibly solid at first base. Not injury riddled. His power might be tick better hitting at Miller Park. Decent average. I'd take him over any other first baseman the crew trotted out over the last 2 years (I know, that's not saying much). He isn't quite as intriguing as Duda or Ike Davis as far as upside and power potential, but we wouldn't have to give up part of our depleted farm system to get him. For the right price, I'd take Loney in a heartbeat. Hard working, shows up for work everyday, consistent, blue-collar guy.

Wow! Beautiful collections guys! I have nothing that recent, but I do have a TON of Brewer cards. I have over 50,000 total Brewer cards and I'm guessing 10,000 of those are different. Of the 10,000 different cards, I have 1,200 different Yount cards. Tough thing about collecting Yount is that he actually has more cards issued after his retirement than when he was playing. With the exception of a few 1977 discs, the 1986 sportflics error, and a couple extreme oddball cards, I have just about every card of his from the 70's and 80's. I still grab some Brewer/Yount cards on ebay when I have to scratch that itch, but I primarily stick to my case of Heritage a year now.

On a side note, there was a SGA in 1994 that consisted of 4 books of cards of anyone that ever wore a brewer uniform. You will find everyone you are looking for in that set. Not sure how nuts you wanted to go here, but you will need Kevin Bass and Bob Skube (Medich is obviously in there also) from this set to attain all members of that '82 team, in a Brewer uniform. Unfortunately, I do not have duplicates of any of these. Everyone else from that team has at least one Brewer card from a major card company.

Might I suggest buying an '83 set instead of an '82. The '83 set reflects more players of the '82 season, the '82 set reflects more of the '81 season. You'll get guys like Don Sutton and Doc Medich (1983 Fleer only I believe). If you are having problems filling this, let me know. I have well over 50,000 brewer cards. I'd be able to help you out no problem.

I read both columns when they came out. Stark is very persuasive, but alas, I don't agree. He also wrote an article yesterday (forgive me for I cannot find the link) that echoes the sentiment of you and many others. The jist of it was that something needs to be done to fix the voting process. I'd like to point out this article: http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8831305/hall-famers-glad-barry-bonds-roger-clemens-denied. They don't want them in either.

Didn't think I had to elaborate quite this much, but when you can show me these guys prescriptions for these steroids, I will correct myself. What they did under their circumstances was illegal, period. That's the beauty, or ugliness as it appears to be in this instance, of the voting process. There will never be 100% consistency. Different voters voting on different eras. New age voters, old school voters. The voters that put Cobb or Stargell in the Hall aren't all the same ones that didn't put Bonds in. Values change. Eras change. Their accomplishments are in the Hall of Fame. The Hall of Fame has 40,000 plus artifacts from almost 2 centuries of baseball. Balls, jerseys, cleats, bats. I'm sure some of those are theirs for all generations to see. They just don't deserve a plaque.

Rule 5 of the Baseball Hall of Fame voting states: Voting shall be based upon the players record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played. No one on this board will question Bonds, Clemens, and a few other known/suspected PED users record, playing ability, or contributions the their respected teams, but we should all question their integrity, sportsmanship, and character. Sure, they were not the only one's doing it, but the hundreds of others that were are not up for the hall of fame either. Sure, steroids was not illegal in baseball at the time, but neither is murder. Steroids is a banned substance in this country. Baseball should not have been, nor is it in my mind, an exception. Sure, they weren't the only HOFers whose integrity, sportsmanship, and character have come into question. Stargell passed out amphetamines to teammates. Gaylord Perry wrote a book called "Me and the Spitter". Molitor and Eck supposedly used cocaine. Heck, Ty Cobb allegedly killed a guy. They are all in the Hall because the BBWAA, at that time, felt they still fit the Rule 5 critieria. The BBWAA voters of today obviously have spoken. Sure, Bonds, Clemens, and a few others deserve a spot in the Hall of Fame. When you walk through it, their memorabilia is already there. They just don't deserve a plaque.

Fred McGriff anyone? If he gets in for 500 hrs, why not 493? McGriff, Smith, Raines, and Biggio for me.