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Probably won't win another game all year

I hadn't heard of those bonusses until the post above, I think that's pretty clear reason there. Also, someone mentioned someone claiming him. I didn't even consider that with how he's played, hopefully someone does that and gives a bit extra deadline money to play with

Maybe he was given the choice of this or an IR stint with no guarantees on a spot when he's eligible to come back? Not that I'm too worked up about it, but I'd rather have the depth hanging around for two more weeks than not. Never know who else gets hurt or someone does really poorly.

Kinda true, but he's just been hurt and we all know how elbows go. Once one things happens that's usually not it. So there is a fairly significant chance once you trade for him that something else happens and then you just traded a lot of capital for like 4 starts. And if you're him in this situation, any pain you should sit out rather than risk TJ. If he was having his normal dominant year cruising along with no issues, I'd probably be indifferent/ok with it. With the injury, I think its enough for me to pass unless the cost is much less than we all assume.

Generally true. They also just might not be clicking together, although Murphy's defense of him the other day is probably an indicator that he's a good locker room guy and willing to do what is asked. But he's probably hoping to get signed by an Angels type team and see if he can stick in the bigs. If he can't find anything better he could always come back to us I think. With all our injuries I'd assume we'd have preferred he hung around aaa, especially since Murphy seemed to vouch for him as a guy

Isn't that what they currently have in the 3rd deck now, 300 Club or whatever they call it now. I guess they're not getting the buyin on those since they're too high up? IDK, I'm not sure there is enough super rich and big corps to buy this up at the level of most other big cities so it would be better leave it generally as is and do something else to try and court those rich people/businesses. As you say, maybe shifting the 300 level stuff to somewhere in the 2nd or just making the 300 club better. I've only had tickets in it once, for a weekday playoff game vs AZ 3ish years ago and it was basically dead, not crowded, etc

Oh gotcha, its the same for everyone. Duh, I did know that.

The trade idea thread on Bauers mentioned how we wouldn't risk the QO on him so wouldn't get anything. I didn't see it mentioned as to what the best guess would be on that QO? Due to his limited track record it shouldn't be anything too crazy right? If he continues to do well all season maybe giving that and hoping he accepts as a one year stopgap to some youths coming up could be in the cards. Other relevant info is Vaughn will be ARB eligible and assuming a modest bump for him he'll be in the 10 mil range. If Bauers QO is in the same area I would think to go with him (assuming a good finish to the season) since he's strong side of the platoon and has the OF flex if needed. And generally speaking, I don't think they'll pay both.

Good post. Just adding the key for Lara is do they think he can do more than at least one of Mitchell/Frelick to the point they'd actually play him every day. In addition, with how Bauers and Vaughn keep hitting you're almost at the point where they both have to play nearly every day. In that case, Lara would have to expected to play nearly every day over both Mitchell & Frelick to warrant coming up

even worse, we cut him to trade for someone else last season just to have that person play like 5 games. then signed Sanchez. Could have just had Haase the whole time for nothing and he's perfectly fine/adequate for a backup C on a team that almost never plays its backup C

Woodford was one that made no sense to me when they got him considering he had no options, quite the opposite of our normal target. Perhaps they thought they could fix him and make him a legit starter, but obviously they've been wrong and should just move once guys are healthy. Also really never got axing Haase either. seemed to get a hit or walk every time we played him. Willy never sits, so didn't get trading for a backup C last year. Hopefully its just a bad day but if both pitchers have to hit the IL this could be a bid butterfly effect day of the season.

And 25-30 mil per year each to Adames and Chapman for another 5ish years too. They're in really bad shape

With how bad SF is I don't think this is over. However, also not sure how much we're going to want to blow through the pen today. I suppose a fresh arm can come tomorrow for Crow. Possibly two if they decide Hall needs IL

But was looking at as another guy to trust to do the 4-5 inning thing though, not the traditional 'starter'. Hoping add him to the up/down from AAA cycle on it to eat some innings. The Patrick, Sproat, Drohan, Hall, Henderson types. With how he looked and how legit his curve looked thought he could be in that group, not so much after today. Hopefully Gasser's game yesterday is a good sign that he can. But as of now I don't love having to put either of them out there. IDK, maybe with the need for a real starter right now they should revisit Hall getting back to be a somewhat normal SP (of course it'll take a few starts to get him up to 90-100 pitches though). See if one last try at that could work

Well I guess a little less trust in Crow as an option going forward.