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Same difference, they'll be godawful this year, and for probably two more after if they did. And then cross your fingers that the trades work. Think of all the prospects that flop, I remember a few years ago people that love the idea of perpetually trading for the future having these dream lineups that mostly flopped, they included guys like Lastings Millidge etc.. I fully accept they should probably trade Gomez when the time is right, unless he'll take a reasonable extension (which they should be trying for now) he's going to command over 20 mil per year going into his 30s(turns 30 after next season). A big market will offer 7 or 8 years when you know the last few years of the deal will be rough. It's the same problem/decision they were trying to avoid with Braun except Gomez isn't a generational level player like they thought Braun was when they did it. And I get that they probably should have just rode out Braun's initial extension and then decided what to do, all I've been trying to say here is I get why they did it and it was logical why they did it.
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Exactly FV. That was one of my man points way back. It's not logical to think hitting like he currently is can't co-exist with not running into a ton of outs.
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I'm not sold on Ennis yet either but he's just a rookie and seems a legit 6'2 so he's not small. I liked him in college and think he has potential. My guess is they'll give him another year and an offseason with the team before giving up on a top 15 pick. I see your point though, I've seen some mock drafts giving us Tyus Jones, who seems to be lucky if he's 6'0, I don't see that as a possibility for what they're trying to do here. I'm fine with Henson as a backup as well, I'd be worried someone will give him more money than we want to pay when he's a RFA. I just want to add someone with more upside with the chance to be a quality starter. My guess is Henson is capped out at what he is now, won't get any better.
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I just think a screen/roll/catch/dunk defense first big (ala Larry) is what they need. not really a post-up type center. I think WCS fits that mold and could fall to the 8-12 pick range, no way they're getting Towns or Okafor. And WCS is such a good defensive player that he could fit what they're trying to do on D where all guys can switch. I never really saw Turner play so I can't talk to his game, just where he's projected.
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Yes they didn't have to, but let's say everything would've worked out and he was still near his top performance. What would have happened after this season? He's getting a 300mil offer like Pujols got and we're screwed, that's why they did it. Now as baseball nerds like most people on here, they probably accept losing a 31 yr old, even if he's still good because they know he's probably only got a couple good years left followed by some slightly above average years. To the casual fan they don't see that, they see the classic narrative of the Brewers are cheap, letting the best player they ever had leave. Like I said, it would have been nice to do that contract just through age 35 instead of 37. I think that would have been giving him enough to still sign it. And your other thing about age 29, yes it's backend but it's allowing a top player go at this peak rather than trying to win. That's what they were trying to avoid. Let's see how the attendance is say 3 years from now if trade Gomez and Lucroy and are in dead last and one of the worst teams in the league. If they do that they'll really need Peralta/Nelson and some other young pitchers to make a big step up or it could be a rough couple years. Ownership is trying to avoid going back to this years, keep in mind they're only what, 8 years removed from being a complete bottom feeder of the league.
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Yes Chandler is a great fit for the Bucks, but he's a great fit for almost every contending team. He's not coming to Milwaukee unless we offer significantly more money. I agree with Superfly, he probably won't leave Dallas. Cuban realized it was a mistake letting him go and after seeing how the Knicks operate he appreciates having the best owner in the league. Only chance for MKE would be if Kidd and Chandler have a great relationship from their time in NY. What's ironic is that Sanders was basically a poor man's Chandler, Bucks had exactly what they need in Sanders if he didn't flake out. Willy Cauley-Stine from Kentucky also fits this category, if we would have had just one more crappy season to get a top 7 pick we'd be in prime spot to grab a guy like him. I don't think Henson and the 17 is going to move you up all that far in the draft, throw in the clips pick and some second rounders and maybe you can get up far enough to get a good rim protecting young big like WCS, Turner etc. Also, if we don't move up it wouldn't surprise me at all if they took Frank, looking at him as kind of a replacement for Ersan when his contract is up I think after next year. I thought Greg Monroe could be a possibility but the more I read I don't think it will happen. Sounds like he's going to the Knicks almost for sure. Regardless,it seems he's a bit of a ballstop on offense who needs post touches. Bucks motion share the ball system isn't ideal for that.
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Yup, one reason I was fine with their offers to Prince and CC that weren't accepted. From what I remembered they were willing to give only 5 or 6 year deals to them at the market yearly amount around 20, as we've said it's those last few years that really prove the problem. With their body types you could kind of see them not going well into their mid 30s, whereas Braun was in top shape. Like I said, everyone pretty much knows all this and it's fair to make the argument to just stay away from these deals no matter what. You then have to accept they were looking at Braun (or someone like him, such as Gomez/Lucroy really soon) leaving at age 29 or whatever, in the heart of his prime. How would that have gone with the fans since Braun was a top 3 player in baseball at the time. I actually think the Brewers are generally following this rule, but considered Braun the exception. For any of these mid tier free agents they've signed the last few years (Lohse, Garza, Aram, Suppan, Wolf, etc.) they tend not to go past 4 years (tough to get into more than one year of trouble, two in a worst case scenario at the end of these contracts), to avoid having a multi year albatross on the books like a Soriano type.
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Yes, everyone is aware but you just have to remember there's two sides to the negotiation. The team can't just get everything they want. Of course they knew his production was going to dip into his mid 30s, but they didn't want to watch the face of their team walking in free agency at 29 or 30 and get a 10 yr deal from NY or ANA like Pujols did (he was like 32 though so much easier for STL to let him go) If you want to make the argument a small market team should never pay someone past their age 31 or 32 seasons that's fair. I totally see why they did it and why it made sense at the time. It's logical to think a hitter of his caliber would be an above average hitter into his mid 30s and at least competent until 36, still might be. Sure 20 mil is high for just above average but that's the tradeoff for the low front years and the stability of having him for team marketing and such. Another way to look at it, shift 5 mil per year from the last 4 years and put it on the front 4 years and it doesn't look so bad.
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I see what you mean. Even if it was his idea they still had to give something, not like he was just going to bend over. Still, maybe they could have chopped 15-20 mil off if they negotiated a little harder, or just took one year off. At the time though they probably thought they were getting a great deal. I totally agree on the those contracts, I laugh every year as the yankees keep repeating the mistake. Elsbury, Mccann, Beltran in the same year all at least 31 yrs old, yea that will end well. Specific to the braun one, it only took him to age 36 or 37, not all the way to 40 like some of these horrible ones (votto, pujols, arod, etc.). and like you said, they thought he'd be the best Brewer ever and a hall of famer. Overpaying him the last 2-3 years was a fair trade for all they thought they'd have gotten from him over the years, especially considering he was getting under 10 mil in his prime. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but if a player retires he doesn't get paid. He just has to show up though, no matter how bad he is. Team can cut him or put him on the DL but if they show up they get paid. Retire and they don't.
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If you like Workaholics, you should try Sunny in Philadelphia. Also, Broad City is very good, like the girls version of Workaholics. I second a lot in this thread, for new active ones Goldbergs, Brooklyn 99, Blackish, are all solid. Last Man on Earth is good but unless they start making a Forte a little more sympathetic they're going to turn some people off, I like that type of thing though. Veep is amazing, Californication, Curb your Enthusiasm, Parks and Rec.
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But he wasn't signed at age 30 like all these deals the Yankees give out that backfire so that's why I don't blame them and consider it a fair deal. This was to convince him at a young age to give up free agency and commit to us. You have to give something to him to make him give up going to free agency. Without the PED problem and now injuries it was perfectly reasonable to expect him to be a high level player into his mid 30s, of course he can't be a near 1.000 ops guy all the way through but that he'd still be solid. Heck, he still might as we're only a few games into the season
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I'm honestly not sure if they'll lose another game all year, other than maybe at the end when they're resting players and setting the rotation for the playoffs. Seriously, there's no reason this offense shouldn't be able to score a bunch of runs and be top 5 in the NL offensively.
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I actually think it makes perfect sense. That was the deal that was made by both parties, team will underpay you when you're young and overpay when older. Both sides agreed to it, not that we're at the overpay side we all think we're getting hosed. Have to keep it in perspective. It would be the equivalent of having a deal to do some landscaping work (or whatever similar project) where you pay half up front and half after completion, but then saying its BS you have to pay the second half of the money since the work is already done. While I agree that ideally the extension would have gone through 2018 instead of 2020 (age 35 instead of 37) I see why they did it and at least it isn't as bad as all the other ones out there paying guys through their age 41 or 42 seasons. The problem here is he didn't live up to his end by getting caught in the scandal thus killing his marketability and now production. The team couldn't have know that was to happen and unfortunately there's no way out of it. The deal itself was sound, just couldn't plan on this BS happening with him
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While calling him overpaid, keep in mind his initial extension was so cheap that he was being paid like 5mil per year during his glory years. Yes he'll be overpaid as he gets older but he was massively underpaid until basically now so it balances out, that's how MLB works.
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I was worried as I wasn't really a fan of the new M design. But I like these and think they kept a retro type feel. I still would've preferred a re-boot of the Buck spinning the ball since retro is in these days, but these logos go down the same road without just using the old logo so I get it and like them.
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Yea I don't agree with benching him either, he's their best player. I loved the Brett Favre analogy. Sure was fun to watch but I bet they win more SBs if he doesn't throw so many stupid picks every year. I was pleasantly surprised to see Braun not get sent home yesterday when it was 2-2 and Lind doubled with 0 outs. Was expecting him to get thrown out by 20 ft at home.
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Exactly. And in the NBA, they get tested 4 times a year, often with a heads up as to when, and then they are home free the rest of the year, including playoffs. So let's say Lebron was tested for the fourth time January 21, he's free to do whatever he wants until the next season. Remember when he took his two week break in the middle of the season and then came back and looked like his old self again? Or in the playoffs a few years ago when D-wade looked like he couldn't walk, then he had two or three days off in between games and he looked 25 years old again. They could do whatever they want and frankly I don't care, I want them on the court.
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Does anyone know if former Brewers great Bill Hall is still toiling around the minors or independent leagues these days? I couldn't really find anything online.
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The tests aren't being tripped because the masking agents the players are taking are very advanced Possibly, we don't really know. From what I understood of most of these guys that got caught in the Biogen is that they were taking small "gummy bear" type supplements after a game, stuff so minute that it wouldn't show up the next day. Braun's mistake was seemingly taking it before he left the park that day and was clear from being tested until the next day. Again, we don't really know the story. I'll stick with my stance that if they don't fail the most stringent test in the athletic world that it's good enough for me. Of course part of that most stringent testing is that they're trying to test for masking agents, which they are and should continue to update as best as possible. i think they whol witch hunt to catch these guys in baseball is ridiculous, noone cares when a football player fails and there is next to no testing in the NBA.
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Man I hate the Cardinals, but at least they're not from Canada.
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I would be in the camp that the PEDs aren't the issue here, other than not using them to help him stay healthy. In this era under the most intense testing in any sports association what the players are using is very small compared to the 90s when they were using real deal steroids to bulk up. I pretty much view the modern stuff as supplements to help recover from injuries or just to stay fresh for muscle recovery. Braun had his best season the year after he was initially caught. I think his potential decline here is due to injuries along with normal declining due to age, yet everyone will say PEDs. I would even go so far as to say these small supplements should be legal to help players stay healthy and on the field. Who wants to see the best players on the DL and/or bench for rest. As long as they're not all out juicing like the Bonds/Mcgurie/Sosa era I'm fine with it. If whatever they're taking isn't enough to trip the tests (as noone in the biogen scandal did) then it's fine by me, it's likely such a minor thing that we shouldn't be concerned with it. MLB shouldn't be going out of their way to make their players looks worse and to give themselves more bad publicity.
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Obviously next year will be a somewhat 'rebuilding' year. But considering we have two really good players back I'd still expect top 4 in the B1G and losing in the round of 32 or sweet 16. Assuming a couple fresh get some minutes along with Happ, as long as Bronson and Nigel stay for their senior years they could make a run again that year. Those two will be two of the best players in the country at that point. Also, it wouldn't be crazy to make a run when the next class of freshman are seniors since it's a strong group and doubtful any go pro. They just need to nail a big and a PG in the next class to pair with them and they could really have something that year.
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I mentioned this in another thread. Does anyone else see his pitch selection as a problem these days? It seems he's been falling for the low outside slider way more than he used to (a la Corey Hart) which is putting him behind in the count. I don't recall this being a problem for him in his glory days. Getting back to swinging at pitches in the zone has nothing to do with PED and has to help him get back to his old self. Maybe he's pressing because he doesn't have a Prince or Aram from 3 years ago behind him anymore but that has to get out of his head.
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Yea I'm not really sure where the MCW comment comes from. My best guess would be that he has seemed to play fairly well the last 6 games or so and seems to just be fitting in better now. Not surprisingly the team has been playing a little better lately as opposed to right after the trade. They could easily win 2 games vs Tor and make this interesting, much rather see them than the Bulls, the arena would be 70% Bulls fans.
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What Many Brewers Fans May Think, But Dare Not Say (Yet)
tmwiese55 replied to Jim Goulart's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Rather, he needs to get it through his head to play smarter. He can't be diving for balls out of his reach, Other than the thumb injury of course, I think this has been the biggest reason for his struggles the last two years. It really seems he's swinging at pitches outside of the zone way more than before the suspension. He's consistently falling for the low outside slider and I don't recall that being a major problem with him before. Good example was yesterday he had that 10 pitch at bat when maybe only one of the pitches was in the zone but he kept fouling them off. I know they were all close and he had to protect but maybe if he didn't swing at the early one he wouldn't have had to protect with 2 strikes, maybe he gets in a 3-1 count and actually gets a pitch on the plate instead of on his hands or low and outside. It really seems the scouting report is out on him now, he has to actually adjust.