MrTPlush

I am really disappointed no one said: Let go of Wong, Renfroe, and Narvaez to save $25mil ADD Aaron Judge

I was confused at first. He is talking about Joc Pederson. But it didn't really hold water anyway.

That is some mighty optimism. Badgers should be hopeful to make a bowl game at this point. They have to go 5-2 just to do that as their first game won't count if I understand the requirements correctly. For a team that so far has gone 1-3 against eligible opponents, that won't be a simple task. I look at their schedule and figure, yah, it is pretty soft, However, they have already lost two home games and got crushed in one of them. Were they bad teams, no, but certainly teams you should be beating at home. Right now ESPN odds have them going 4-3, but I figure they will manage at least the 5 they need. They really should just play Kansas in a bowl game and let the winning coach be the next HC of the Badgers.

I am all for giving Mitchell a shot from the get-go next year. I would personally run out a Mitchell/Frelick/Renfroe OF...or maybe let Frelick fight it out in ST with the other top prospects. To me you run out two of the prospects and have the other two in the wings to get their shot if one falters. I gotta figure between four top OF prospects two can be decent hitters. If I drank about 6 beers before GMing the Brewers I would consider shopping Adames. Potentially trade him for prospects and then flip those prospects (plus maybe adding more from the system) for a different infield hitter that is more controllable. Ideally it is a 3B and then put Turang at SS. That is a mini dream if there was such a 3B to acquire. I would want them controllable for 4+ years though. One issue the Brewers are going to have is the OF. They have 5 OF prospects in their Top 8. Four are already at AAA and the other is a potential mega prospect that isn't far off in that case either. Every single one of them is an elite defender minus Ruiz, so that is a bit of a logjam. Stearns could try to cash in on some of that value now...or potentially wait another offseason and see how they shake out after 2023.

I am not sure Joc Pederson being wildly underpaid really means much to Hunter Renfroe. You are comparing Joc post contract agreement to what he signed prior to that performance. Joc got 1/$6mil after being a 0.2 WAR player. Actually he got 1/$6mil after being a -0.4 WAR player over the last three years. Negative value over three years. Not like Joc was some star prior either that inflated his contract...he was exactly like the 2.5 WAR Renfroe we have. Your example makes Hunter Renfroe at $10mil seem like a bargain.

Stearns won't go into the season as a lame duck. The Brewers will extend him or (not likely) he leaves. The Mets don't want him though, so I don't think that is the concern it was the past few years. I don't know that Stearns is the flashy name he was in the past.

Garrett Mitchell is ending the year with a nice statline at face value...but we are talking about 52 ABs. One big game will skew that to be good. The guy has been on a hot streak to end the year, but most of his time this year he was sporting a pretty ugly line. Was he just getting comfortable and now he is going to be really good moving forward? Hard to say, I have quite a bit of optimism because his hot streak also saw his K-rate plummet. His last 15 PAs feature only four Ks and no multi game performances. That still isn't great, but better than how he started. I don't have a problem going with Mitchell plus other rookies...but yah, it is a huge risk and they could be mega flops next year. Just depends on how hard you are trying to compete and long term intentions with the roster.

1) I don't think anyone said that. 2) The only thing that is ignorant is calling people's point of view ignorant and than providing absolutely nothing about this data that people are ignorantly ignoring according to you. Good Job.

Brewer Fans: Our offense was absolutely a big disgrace Also Brewer Fans: Lets non tender our best hitter of 2022 because he will cost 1/$10mil.

If you move Yelich to DH, why not keep Renfroe in the OF? We aren't going to trot out 3 rookie OFers, I just don't really see that happening. Your concept of punting '23 is fine...but only if they use DHonks logic of extending Woodruff. If they aren't extending Burnes or Woodruff, neither should be on the '24 to begin with (along with Adames). If you don't want to compete and aren't extending one of those guys, you might as well rebuild now and shoot for '25. Hopefully Peralta can be made out of something sturdier than glass and Ashby can form into something solid...and by then hopefully these young guys aren't only on the team, but also hitting.

They aren’t punting ‘23 and hoping for ‘24. Not without trading away all of Burnes/Woodruff/Adames/Tellez. Those guys aren’t getting rode all the way to FA. Won’t happen, so anyone not extended would get traded Can we really improve the offense? Through FA? I doubt it. Everyone is going to want to dump Wong and apparently even Renfroe. They were our two best hitter and it really wasn’t particularly close. Best way to improve the offense is A) probably not dumping both our best hitters or B) pray on the rookie or C) stop hoarding every prospect so we have don’t enough to man 3 entire OFs. Realistically, you keep Renfroe to start. You depend on maybe two rookies getting starter ABs to start the year. Maybe find one ‘value FA’. Lastly, try to trade for a solid hitter. That’s the best route with limited funds to shake up the offense and still probably have it be competent…with some potential the rookies make it something better.

Annnnnnd Disney and Dish/Sling couldn’t make an agreement for ESPN is gone. Sigh, maybe time to go back to cutting the cord and cutting the subscription.

I’m not ready to put Stearns in the hot seat. You are right that a lot of the current success is thanks to being left with a really generous state of the organization and a way better Attanasio to work with than Melvin ever had.…but he still has created good teams himself and made lots of good moves. He still has the organization in a pretty good spot and a nice minor league pipeline. However, I am kind coming to the conclusion Stearns is probably not the magical unicorn GM everyone kinda labeled him after 2018. I am getting concerned about his philosophy on winning or whatever he is trying to do. He refuses to help the team at the deadline with anything that would cost a decent prospect or two and his bullpen handling at the deadline was a joke. I’m all for trying to extend the window of competing at the expense of maybe not having a juggernaut team for a year or two…but Stearns literally torpedoed a team leading the division into an unwatchable choke job. Stearns refuses to add anything of note, but readily trades away one of the teams best players. That is simply nuts. If we rewind time back to 2015 and I tell you in a few years we would have two of the best starters in baseball (arguably three aces) and we proceeded to trade the best closer in baseball creating a net loss at the deadline this entire board would probably tell you to burn down the stadium…never to watch baseball again and demand the release of both aces for their own good. Again, not saying Stearns hasn’t done a good job..,but his last 12 months could not have been any worse. He simply has got to be better than he has been of late and maybe we don’t need to hoard 10 OF prospects.

Lance Leipold has already been pestered since Nebraska fired their coach. He has mentioned at this stage in his career his goal really wasn’t to move his family to Kansas and then pack up a day later to leave. He is 58…so not all that young. I think there is a legitimate chance he doesn’t really want to leave Kansas, especially for a job that won’t have high job security. If PC got fired over this…there are some unreasonably high expectations that may not be possible. It’s the same problem with the Nebraska job. On paper Leipold has done incredible things…but I invite anyone to watch Kansas’ last two games. As an in-game coach, he does some weird stuff. I always thought PC was an idiot and had bad decision making…but Leipold does some head scratcher things. He insists on using his back up QB all the time when his starter is playing at a Heisman quality and like PC…loves punting at the opponents 35-40. His timeout usage is also Packers level dumb at times. Is Leipold a Big Ten style coach and can he succeed there…I think that is a big question mark.

It’s not often I would consider an entire trade deadline a “F”, but David Stearns could not have possibly been any more of a failure. He traded Hader instantly making a quite iffy bullpen total garbage. The guys he got to fill the void were complete disasters. The best of the bunch was Trevor Rosenthal. Who? Yah, the injured guy he traded for and didn’t throw a pitch. What a pathetic message they sent to fans at the deadline and the bullpen blew chunks the rest of the year. Honestly, I’m not sure where they go from here. My gut says they will go into 2023 without trading a major player (Woodruff/Burnes/Adames) and will try to create a division winning team before trading multiple if not all after 2023. Yelich to DH seems likely so Mitchell/Frelick/etc. can fill two OF spots…Renfroe needs to return. Wong is either kept or traded. My opinion is to keep Wong as three rookie starters seems like too much.

Maybe Rodgers just needs to be a low seed and play in domes all January.

“That looked easy, just like an extra point” -Romo Well, it was extra point distance…so…

Well, at least something today went right…kinda…

It kinda is. You said he goes the aggressive course or at least try. Those runs were predictable and predictably didn’t go anywhere. Looked like a guy playing for a tie with his 3rd stringer.

He just had golden field position and needed a measly FG to win…needed like 10 yards to try. He proceeded to run two times in a row up the middle to start.

Dillon with big carries…for the love of god please don’t fumble dude.

I just don’t think the Packers are very good, sadly.

There is honestly nothing enjoyable about the GM making a team worse in July after a lame off-season.

Yah…not sure how you get better..,or even afford to. Tellez is cheap.

Brewers coming back just to make us angry some other day.