MrTPlush
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Not saying their development is better, just saying they aren't dysfunctional. A lot of luck is involved even with having good player development. Even with the best ideas, finding success in baseball comes with 4x as much failure. Stearns was hitting the lottery early on picking up Villar/Shaw/Aguilar....but obviously it wasn't always going to be that great of odds for success. Really the main reason we rebuilt so fast. Had we hit on those types of moves at a more reasonable pace, we probably wouldn't have been on the radar in 2017 and probably don't have the year we did in 2018. That isn't a knock on Stearns or the Brewers FO...they just had a lot go right. It probably doesn't happen that well again when we try to rebuild.
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They would...it would certainly give us quite an insane group of young talent adding with what we already have. Hopefully we would avoid a half decade saga of losing. Still gotta hit on some guys though. Royals have been a dumpster fire since they won the World Series and I don't find them terribly ran. What we wouldn't have is on TOR arm...something we dearly need to actually compete. That isn't easy to find and certainly hard to try and get in a trade.
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Oh, I totally agree. Regardless of how long it ends up taking, I would just blow it up. I thought that was a legitimate option last offseason.
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I get the division isn't a powerhouse and it doesn't take much to make the postseason at this point...but to think we are going to implode the roster and then be chugging along looking at division titles in 2025 is Mt Everest level optimism. People expecting a quick turnaround like last time, just two short years of bad baseball before thrusting into success again truly don't appreciate how much had to go right for that to happen. Even that took two years and even the Cubs needed two years to reset things before barely getting to .500 this year. Which they have the benefit of money to buy impact FAs. It could happen...but that is quite a long shot. You are probably looking at '26 or even '27 depending on how the offense actually turns out. We have a lot of nice prospects, but hardly can't miss guys (minus Chourio) on offense. That is asking for a lot of rookies and 2nd year guys to go sprinting out of the gates. Where is the starting rotation in '25? Your theory bombs the whole thing.
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Well, yah, that would have zero basis to actually prove it. Impossible to be wrong then. What exactly is competing on a 90+ lose team? Players are going out there to win and play good regardless...unless they want to lose their job and not play baseball. The whole team wasn't revolting against him? Pretty low bar to clear.
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I mean...that is a stretch.
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Angels owner is so dumb, it is hard to comprehend sometimes.
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I don't recall the Mets offer being stated as such...only 'significantly less' than the Cubs offer. Was that still highest paid manager money? Idk...maybe so. Even if it was, considering their financial standing and they probably knew the Brewers would offer at least around that highest paid manager in MLB amount....no, not really aggressive, in my opinion.
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Counsell said he didn't go back to the Mets because he knew he wouldn't go there and didn't want to waste time...essentially. It was reported they were never going to go anywhere near the Cubs number though. However, if Counsell was really looking for the best offer to reset the market that doesn't make any sense...nor does not taking it the Brewers. It is quite likely the Cubs told him to take it or leave it and weren't going to let him shop the offer...or Counsell saw how much the Cubs were about to overpay that he just accepted before the Cubs came to their senses. Because in reality, the Cubs offered waaaay more than they had to because it sounds like he wanted to go to the Cubs and really didn't want to go to the Mets or Brewers.
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The Cubs had to of blew through their hypothetical budget, so I don't know if this really holds water then. Like generally I agree, but Counsell's salary wouldn't fit in any teams budget if they had one. And if any team in baseball was going to blow through a budget, no better team than the Mets.
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Classic over punishment in the PR world to look good and make NCAA happy.
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Haha, I was merely joking. I would not have actually been a fan of that potential hire.
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I am surprised no one has pointed out the person that knows him best (David Stearns), opted to not be aggressive trying to get him and it sounded like they may not have even been willing to make him the highest paid manager in baseball. Despite having an owner with an open wallet and it not counting for luxury tax purposes. Not only that, but they then proceed to give some guy with zero experience peanuts to come manage the Mets. While Counsell got some interest around the league, it is a bit interesting Stearns didn't seem to go all out to try and try to get him on his new squad. Maybe he read between the leaves and knew Counsell wasn't going to go to NYC, but it is interesting.
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Canha to Detroit.... RHP Blake Holub to Brewers
MrTPlush replied to Jastro's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
The guy has been incredibly consistent for years and he was barely above his career average and actually worse with us than he was in 2022. I am not going to lose sleep not paying a 35 year old $11mil, but I am not even remotely shocked another team was interested. What he did with us was hardly shocking or over his head. We must all be looking at different stats because another poster is saying he will revert to a 100-105 OPS+ guy...he hasn't posted an OPS+ over an entire year that low since 2017
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Brewers losing Counsell to get a former manager of the year. Typical Brewers 'W'.
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I mean, he really didn't say much for the fanbase or even the organization. Pretty amazing for a guy that was employed in his 30s as a player making the majority of career earnings here. Then he got plopped into the literal perfect situation when we gave him a chance to be a manager to even make this record contract possible. If he would have ended up somewhere else with a worse FO or bad timing, he could arguably already be ousted and retired from managing. Such a fickle job...if you don't succeed the first chance, no one is likely to care and give you another.
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I can't imagine a scenario where Murphy stays and isn't the manager. It sure seemed like he was really close with Counsell. You ever see the camera pan to the dugout when a big moment was coming (potential pitching change)? Counsell was always holding hands with Murphy basically trying to decide. I have never seen a manager lean on his bench coach as much as Counsell. If Murphy gets the managerial job, sure, he would stay. If not, why wouldn't he go be with Counsell and ride his coattails until a team gives him a managerial spot? Why sit under someone else that could be a total dunce and make him look bad in the process? Not to mention, when the guy above you leaves and you aren't promoted, it is an obvious sign you are never going to be the guy...aka Leonard with Wisconsin. Guys don't typically stay in those situations.
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When Counsell said he needed a new challenge, I don't think he specified a more challenging one. Maybe he is looking for an easier challenge. Seemed like he struggled with the challenge he already was dealing with.
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Weeks is my all-time fav Brewer, so I would feel a little if that happened. Not sure he would be good or not though. Mattingly…I mean, hardest pass of all-time. Murphy, yah, look…I think this is a likely outcome. Trying to start a managerial search in mid-November after a few hot candidates are already gone? That is just not ideal at all. I wouldn’t be shocked if Murphy just bridges the gap.
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Well…then they still screwed up. As the Brewers’ is incorrect then. :)
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I….I can’t say I would know that sir…
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2) Sure, you could, but he doesn’t. His article are often filled with explaining how Brewers fans feel (LOL) and labeling it as ‘we’ when talking about Brewers fans or the team. But it really doesn’t matter. The articles aren’t intended to be good, it is about clicks…it is why we had to endure articles in the forum section despite everyone not wanting them there. The writing is usually atrocious, though it looks like some of the forum post level stuff has been weeded out. Still, no one bothers to proof read them even once, it appears. If Brock ever opens up a proofreader job, I may be game though. I may even agree to write if he trades Matthew back to the Cub’s forum. But end of rant, it’s a bit off the intended Counsell conversation.
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You are going to gloss over the market size and payroll size of World Series winners…aren’t you?
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I mean the owner of the site isn't even a Brewers fan, what would you expect?
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Past Results =/= Future Results Especially when one is a big market and the other is the smallest market.
