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In my opinion, sarcasm aside, that was a very different situation. That was a go for it move because that window was going to close and that organization did not have the player strength this one has. I actually think they could survive a Sabathia type move without mortgaging the future right now.

I like how this argument has gone into two extreme corners with nothing in between. Acquiring a guy like Sabathia was not a marginal improvement. Beyond the on-field performance, that trade energized both the team and the fan base. So both are right in a way. Yes, a "big" move may not pay off but it can have more than a marginal affect on the team. You do not have to trade the cream of the crop prospects either to improve the team. The talent level of the system is deep enough that there are going to be enticing prospects that are not Made or Pratt. Never mind that none of use really knows how the organization really views any given prospect. They may not be as high on Pratt as the industry is. Its not a question of trading the best prospects or doing nothing. I do think the FO has earned a considerable amount of leeway in terms of the decisions they make but they are not mistake free. I will never agree with any notion that suggest any entity should go without question. I think, if being honest, the majority of the board scratched their collective heads at the Priester trade but that has, without a doubt, been a massive (dare say more than marginal) acquisition without which, the team would not be here. Likewise, the Hoskins signing was near universally lauded and I don't think that has lived up to the expectations. A "big" move is not equal al to making a move for a name. Likewise, keeping all our prospects or making small moves doesn't guarantee anything either as we've learned through the years. I also think there is room to expect more from the organization as a whole. The whole bites at the apple versus going or it arguments are both valid and I suspect you can find examples of both philosophies working out at times. Personally, I want a World Series. Full stop. But I also see what the org is doing and I'm not sure right now is the time. I think they are going to be better positioned to make that move in the next several years. I think both sides have an argument though and calling anyone out anyone for being on either side is just lazy. We can agree to disagree.

So many three ball counts and so many completely non-competitive pitches tonight.

Baby bears aren't going to cooperate either tonight.

Shouldn't have happened but for the Turang error.

Its been pretty brutal in all phases the last few.

Boy, horrible offensive approach today.

I think it'd take a couple of injuries with Cortes coming back, Henderson and Patrick in AAA. Any of Myers, Hall or Ashby could step in. Its just crazy the depth right now.

First time watching the T-Rats, yikes!!

They were due a clown show game I guess...

That was.........poor.

Boston offense sucks. Runners on the corners and not outs and did nothing with it.

So you don't believe Murphy is at least part of the problem here?

His decision making isn't good regardless.

He isn't a good manager. I said it last year and I'll say it again this year.

He isn't the only option.

And that's fine if this year isn't the focus.

I'm not too worried about it. My opinion going in is that this year was a calculated step back. I've not seen anything to change that opinion. Its going to happen from time to time with the way baseball works right now.

That's the difference in Chourio being counted on to be THE guy vs. PCA needing to be A guy.

DIdn't you make the same statement last night?

I'm not saying it was the wrong approach. Teams that operate this way are going to have seasons where not enough things go their way and they just aren't good. It happens. If they believe they have a wave of impact talent coming up and they can clear some cash to fill in the gaps, so be it. I can take a down year to play the long game.

I think they knew it though. I think they believe a window is going to open soon with some of the kids. They committed no long term money and are just trying to get contracts off the books. I'm not saying they purposefully punted the season but I don't think they are going to be upset if it ends up that way.

Might as well at this point.

Better than whatever this is.

Welp, not gonna watch a beat down at Wrigley north. Enjoy your evening all.