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His in-zone contact rate is just 65.3 percent, significantly lower than the 82.6 percent big-league average. He whiffs nearly 44 percent of the time, while the average is 25 percent. That is why his market was nonexistent, and most likely means it’s only a matter of time before teams further refine their attack against him

Gray won 14 games with St. Louis in 2025 and 13 games in 2024, lead the league in FIP with Minnesota in 2023 and finished 2nd in the Cy Young voting that year, but okay you’re right wins are meaningless and I’m cherry picking stats, he has no value….. sheesh.

Ok. Rewind to February 2026, if your goal is to win the AL East you’re picking Kyle Harrison to pitch you there over Sonny Gray? (Despite poo pooing him with metrics, Gray lead the NL in K:BB ratio last season and his WHIP would have been right behind Peralta on the ‘25 Brewers) If you’re being honest, of course you’re not choosing Harrison. And you’re right, big market clubs like Boston aren’t really don’t care of Harrison is the better pitcher going forward, whereas it’s lifeblood in Milwaukee. Back to the point, Boston is rolling with Sonny Gray, as you put it, because they know what they are likely going to get in the here and now with Gray more than they did with Harrison. The Red Sox are also paying Gray just $11M this season and a $10M buy out on a mutual option for ‘28, with the Cardinals paying the remaining $20M. Harrison has been great for the Brewers. But that does t change the fact he was down in the pecking order in Boston for objective quantifiable reasons (they had multiple players who would help them win more now, and had young ascending players who they believed would help them more to win in the future), and that’s why they moved Harrison to solidify a different area on the roster.

The depth thing is true as well though. We will never really know why Boston acquired Harrison in the first place . On possibility is when the Devers situation ruptured and the Red Sox needed to move him immediately, there were limited teams willing to take on that big of a contract, and Harrison and Co. may have been the best of a group of weak offers. I do think it’s safe to say the Red Sox were never really enamored with Harrison. That would certainly explain why he spent most of his time in Worcester while the big league club cycled through starters at the back of their rotation. Also, it is true by the time camp opened Boston had assembled five pitchers who were likely going to start in front of Harrison (Crochet, Gray, Bello, Oviedo, Suarez) they also had Early and Tolle consensus Top 100 prospects who were major league ready. Depending how you want to rank them Harrison was somewhere between 6th and 8th on the depth chart. They were presented with an opportunity to get a starting 3B, a utility infielder and whatever Siegler is for Harrison and Drohan and they took it. It makes perfect sense unless you view these things as a binary: because Harrison has performed well, Boston must have made a mistake.

It’s also a byproduct of being in the smallest market in the league. There is more patience for players like Harrison and Sproat to hone their skills, because even if the Brewers lost 90 games, nobody in leadership is getting fired. Then you have Boston who won 89 games last year, made the playoffs yet was considered a disappointing season. This year they started off on the wrong foot in April and their manager is already fired and the media is wondering if the GM should next. Harrison is a talented guy, but I think it’s safe to say the Red Sox believed they were better off with Gray, Suarez Oviedo Bello , Tolle, Early and traded Harrison to get infield depth. Like I wrote before it’s not a binary system where because Harrison has pitched well for Milwaukee Boston automatically made a poor decision, trading him away.

Be serious. Suarez and Gray are both veteran all stars. Harrison is a talented player but prior to this season his career era+ was 91 and his career whip was 1.31. Boston was adding pitchers to help them win immediately

They liked them better than Harrison? It’s not a binary situation where one team is smart and the other is unwise. The Red Sox built up a lot of SP depth then used some of it to fill a hole on their roster- infield depth.

Take a peek at their rotation. Top 100 prospects Early, Tolle, then Crochet, Saurez, Gray, and Bello. That’s six, Harrison was probably no higher than 7 on their depth chart (In hindsight you can say they had the ordering wrong) They wanted infield 3B depth more than they wanted starting pitching depth .

Be my guest…. Use up that bandwidth to gush your hopes and dreams. There is a snow ball’s chance in hell Misiorowski signs an extension with the Brewers. Now where is that ignore button….

If he’s the most dominant pitching talent the Brewers have ever had, why would Misiorowski be interested in an extension in the first place? He got a multi million dollar bonus when drafted (2.3M), so his circumstances are different than Chourio, Peralta, Ashby, etc. That’s kind of the end of the discussion. Misiorowski has no incentive to do anything else but build his resume and hit free agency after 2031, then let teams come to him with amounts of money that would shock the conscience. From the Brewers perspective, they could sign any player they want if they’re willing to pay the going rate, but we all know they’re not going to do that. It’s the same as what Paul Dolan said about Lindor when he was in Cleveland, “Enjoy him”.

He signed an 8 year contract with a 50 million dollar guarantee. By your comment above, I take it you’re not a fan of that event in the first place. The reality is Pratt signed a cut-rate extension with the Brewers where he’s going to have an AAV of 6.3 million dollars. With the price of even mediocre free agents reaching 10 million AAV, Pratt will have to fail almost completely for the Brewers to not have a bargain on their hands. Keep in mind the biggest money for Pratt is in the club options, where he does not get a buy out if the Brewers decline them. True they are paying him more than they have to this year, but that’s no reason to throw him in the major league lineup when he hasn’t yet mastered AAA pitching

Look at the totality of the circumstances. He made 11 starts, went 5 IP or more in 8 of them. Made only 1 start where he allowed more than 4 runs (that was the last week of the regular season when playoff positioning was no longer in question). The back of the rotation was a mess in 2024 with Miley and Gasser blowing out their elbows. Bryce Wilson barely averaging 4+ innings per start, Dallas Keuchel running on fumes, then ultimately Joe Ross. Ross was moved to the pen when Montas arrived. Ross as the #5 starter had an ERA of 4.97. The last two months of the season in the pen his era was 1.97. Adding Montas improved the rotation AND improved the bullpen. I get it, you don’t like Montas and liked Joey Wiemer, but there are no facts that support the position that Montas was anything but a solid acquisition for the Brewers.

You may be right, but whether he’s worth rostering is not wholly dependent on his metrics, but is equally dependent on who else they have that could take his spot. It’s unrealistic to assume they’re going to reach a breaking point and call up one of their higher ceiling prospects who has a lower floor currently than Rengifo then let that player repeatedly fail in the majors while the team has postseason ambitions. Fact is, no matter how bad their SS and 3B play offensively, they’re going to run them out there until the decision makers believe they have a player ready to take their jobs, and by all indications there isn’t right now.

Montas took the ball every 5th day, ate innings at the back of the rotation and kept them up in every game but one. And for that production they gave up a renal middle reliever who had missed three months with an injury and a journeyman outfielder. How is it anything but a huge win from the Brewers prospective?

Indisputable talent, but is Sproat going to be anything when he’s staked to a huge lead and has trouble finishing 5 innings .