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  1. Right. You don't cap a guy at 4 innings if he's unhittable. But people need to take a look at how many complete games Brewers pitchers have thrown under Counsell. It's not that they didn't have guys capable of throwing them. It's because you're not going to take the risk, numbers-wise, to expect a pitcher to keep rolling 3-4 times through. So when a starter who is rolling comes out after 5, people will harp about "what-if?". Well, the counter-argument is what if leaving that pitcher in would have lead to a collapse? Because the numbers with most of these guys suggest that leaving them in leads to crooked numbers. I keep hearing how it's "unsustainable". Take a look at the Brewers 2018 season. They rarely let their starters go past 5-6 innings even when they were putting up zeros. Not sustainable? LOL. It's already begun and been done. That's what all that shuffling is for. That's why they non-tendered 2 LOOGYs and spent a high draft pick to replace them with a lefty can can go multiple innings. They're stockpiling the MLB club and the AAA club with long arms so they can limit multiple times through the order by their pitchers even more.
  2. You want to go with "nevers" huh? Just because you missed it or don't remember it doesn't make it so. I wonder what you'll have to say when these tandems, piggybacking, and non-traditional roles are on full display come April.
  3. TJseven7, you hit on just about all of them. Another benefit is greater velocities as witnessed by Woodruff. When he's called on as a traditional starter he's topping out around 93-94. When he was called on to cover 3-4 innings at the most he's dialing it up to 96-97. I'll bring this one out of the can as a refresher - every pitcher on the Brewers postseason roster had better numbers in 2018 their 1st time through a batting order than Ben Sheets career 2nd time through. The numbers hold up with just about any pitcher the Brewers employed in 2018 at any time. In other words, throughout Ben Sheets career, you would have been better off removing him after 3-4 innings and replacing him with just about anyone. The key is you have to have the horses. If your staff is comprised with a bunch of specialists and short guys it's not sustainable. But if you have a staff full of long men and multiple inning relievers, combined with a group stashed in AAA you can limit exposure multiple times through. And the stats to be realized doing so are eye-popping.
  4. Looking forward to it. Stearns has now alluded to tandems, piggybacking, and blurred lines between starters and relievers at least twice this offseason. Everything he's saying and doing is lining up exactly with what I said would happen. And there's no room on a staff set up this way for pitchers who typically face a batter or two at a time.
  5. But he DID literally say that they will continue to blur the line between starter and reliever. Exactly, thank you. If anything I was holding back so as not to stir the naysayers. I'm still waiting for my stalker to show up and tell me how wrong I am. When Stearns comes right out and states these things it does tend to make things easier.
  6. I'm with you right up to the end there. I don't think this organization has any future use for or desire to employ a LOOGY.
  7. Small additional factor with regard to Claudio. As a bridge between initial out getters and the lock down late inning group, this guy gives quite the different look. Imagine going from mid 90's Burnes or Woodruff for 4 innings, then to LH Claudio throwing mid 80's and under for 2-3 innings, and then back to a Hader,, Knebel, or Jeffress pumping it back up to the mid to upper 90's. There's value in keeping hitters off balance like this.
  8. Thanks for digging that up. As always is the case, they're looking at more data than we are.
  9. There really is no mystery here. The GM came right out and said they traded for this guy for his ability to go multiple innings and durability. The price they paid also indicates they see him as more than a LOOGY. The fact they moved on from 2 LOOGYs they could have kept if they wanted a LOOGY is another indicator if still not convinced. So when the stats don't add up, we're left to assume they see something they can fix. They know he's got a rubber arm. And they know they want everyone on the staff to have the ability to go more than 1-2 outs.
  10. So you're dismissing the possibility that they might see an adjustment that can make him effective against RHB? Did you complain about the Miley signing as well?
  11. Time will tell. It's all happening just as I spelled it out. If anything it's accelerating faster than I expected. And the post of mine I quoted wasn't done to show being right about the LHP addition, it was to re-illustrate how a staff comprised primarily of multi-inning pitchers would look in 2019. They needed another multi-inning lefty and it looks like Claudio will be that guy.
  12. I was being conservative saying he mildly confirmed it. I did so because I realize there will still be doubters until the season arrives and the piggybacking is on full display.
  13. Mildly confirmed / alluded to today by Stearns. Mildly confirmed...that's some kind of stretch. I saw the same quote, he didn't even remotely confirm anything. The only thing he did was leave open the possibility of any of those guys either starting or relieving. The quote you're referring to isn't the one I am. I'm referring to this... There's no stretching needed there. Stearns is laying it right out there for all of you.
  14. It sure is. The dominant numbers that could be realized by a pitching staff limiting consecutive repeat looks by batters is fun to extrapolate. Tampa and Oakland are on this train as well but the Brewers might be diving in deeper right now.
  15. Mildly confirmed / alluded to today by Stearns.
  16. The LHP to be named later in the above to take the place of the "Jennings or Cedeno" looks like it will be Alex Claudio. The post quoted looks like a realistic framework for how the staff could take shape in 2019.
  17. Said back on November 1st. It's all about positioning. That said, they'd need to clear Thames for Murphy to make sense.
  18. AAA shuffle mixed with some going 150-160 and some going 80-90. They have no shortage of arms who would be considered former traditional starters so many candidates to cover the 100-150 innings load. The harder transition will be getting the short relievers extended. This won't occur overnight but they're going forward full steam.
  19. Hader is probably the least affected. In other words, the way he was used is more in line with how they need to start conditioning the other guys. And as stated before, the best of the best, guys like a future Scherzer become the pitchers who wind up leading the team in both innings AND appearances. They actually help you more by impacting more games.
  20. Not only would it make Thames disposable, I believe the only way they go this route is if they have a taker lined up for Thames. Anyone they acquire to play 2B is going to have to have versatility and value elsewhere for once Hiura arrives May/June. Murphy only adds that type of versatile value if its to pair with Aguilar at 1B. Remember the Brewers are always exploring multiple avenues. The Murphy route (if chosen) means Thames is as good as gone imo. If you see a Thames trade, I'd expect a Murphy signing soon after and vice-versa.
  21. I understand why you'd feel that way looking at the splits but the GM of the Brewers just stated the exact opposite.
  22. Undefined roles, moving away from 1 batter specialists, start or relieve, etc. The process is in full swing.
  23. Anyone still have doubts that this happening? I don't expect everyone to agree with the approach but there's no sense continuing to deny that it's coming.
  24. Depth can be added without giving up a valuable draft pick. They have a major role in mind for this guy on the big league club.
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