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No, I said people were prospect hugging because people said Buxton's trade value is salary relief. There's a million miles between Luis Pena and "salary relief". People look at Buxton's injury history, which is legit, but then ignore that he has been something like the 22nd most valuable position player by fWAR over the past two seasons. He's not just good, he's elite. And Luis Pena IS a 20-70 prospect. Maybe more like a "20-50" prospect if you want to split hairs, but prospects shouldn't be put into small buckets. Luis Pena is a highly-regarded player in the low minors who has a ton of upside and a low floor. He also struggled in the second half of 2025. In August, Keith Law put him at #37 on his top 100. I'm high on Pena, I certainly wouldn't trade him for Buxton. But there are legitimate questions about him, especially on defense.

On top of what Spencer said, I think there's little chance of the QO making it through the next CBA. It was *this close* to going away in the last CBA; had the two sides merely come together on terms for an international draft, the QO would already be gone.

You realize we literally had a guy in the press box 90+ times this year, right?

So they can go get IKF, just like you wrote! :D

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Speculative, I'm sure, but it sure makes sense. While Anaheim isn't that far from Thousand Oaks (an hour or so), I struggle to see why Yelich would want to be part of the dumpster fire that is the Angels when he gets to make a run at the postseason every single year in Milwaukee.

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Absolutely, he was close to league average in 2024.

I understand your point, but I think you're ignoring just how bad Ortiz was with the bat. He was the third-worst qualified hitter in baseball by wRC+. That's not a little bad, that's unplayable. He definitely needs to improve, and by a lot, to be a functional starter in this league.

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Buxton's salary is effectively Rhys Hoskins with a guaranteed third year instead of an option. In fact, it's technically LESS than the Brewers signed Hoskins for if you include the mutual option year. Obviously, the Brewers can afford that because they just did it.

I think the inverse is true. Pena is in the low minors while Buxton was a five win player in 2025 and a four win player in 2024. This thread has a lot more prospect-hugging than my misunderstanding of Buxton’s value on the field. And it’s not like I’m discounting Pena. I said he’s a reach while someone literally said Buxton’s value is SALARY RELIEF.

Do you mean top 20 global prospect or a team's top 20 prospects? Because the former, I agree. The latter is absurd and wrong. To expand a bit. I think Pena is a bit of a reach for Buxton, but a lot depends on how both the Brewers and Twins view both players. He's in that "20-70" prospect range I think is about what it takes to get Buxton. He's on the higher side, but within the range of expected asks. If a team thinks Pena is a 50 guy, not a 20 guy, well then that changes his value. And the Brewers might be the team that views him that way. Made is in that untouchable class that's well above what I think is reasonable for Buxton.

I don't know if Pratt is enough, and the secondary pieces would need to be a lot better in that case.

Teams are moving in the other direction, just look at the Dodgers. They're targeting upside with injury risk over lesser stability. Of course, Los Angeles can afford to lean that direction in a way other teams cannot, but baseball is largely coming around to the idea that it's more valuable to have a guy who absolutely dominates when they're healthy than a guy who is pretty okay but plays 150 games a year. Because if your goal is the postseason, you want to roll the dice on that upside being healthy and available when the time comes.

I'm sorry, but this is absurd. He makes $15m a season, and has been worth close to nine wins over the past two seasons. William Contreras is the only Brewers player who has posted similar value over that time.

Buxton has been worth 8.7 fWAR over the past two seasons. He’s not going to be traded for filler.

Made is too much, for sure. Maybe Pena and a low-minors guy? Though the Twins might want someone in the high minors. I’m not sure what they’re doing over there, not sure they know what they’re doing over there either.

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Buxton's contract is SUCH a steal. Yeah, he's injured a lot, but he's so good when he's on the field. I'd love to see him go to the Brewers. It'd be wild to see him in that uniform.