I'm not really talking about that, more about how people get attached to these specific animals (ie, name them, care for them, play with them, etc.) and then send them to the fights or the slaughterhouse. Got ya. I grew up on a beef farm and can tell you most animals never get named. Dairy cows sometimes do but then they are not going to the slaughter house anytime soon. Quite frankly most animals are not nearly as cute and cuddly as one would think. Having to clean up after them, feed them and chase them back in the yard at 2am when they get out makes one far less interested in saving them from the slaughter yard.http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif As far as the varying degrees of suffering they have before d-day I know our animals had a far better life than nature would have provided for them though I cannot speak for all farmers treatment of animals. I also think there is some amount of differance between raising animnals for food, which is necessary, and raising them to abuse for entertainment.