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I'm guessing money plays a big part. I don't know what Waller makes - but it can't be cheap. The team will likely be short on cap room. I think if we deal Rogers our cap hit increases to around $40m. We can handle that - but adding big salaries probably won't be in the cards.

Garrett Wilson is a stud. 83 catches and 1100 yards as a rookie last season. Other guys I'm not so sure about.

Giants just acquired Darren Waller from the Raiders for the 3rd Round pick. Waller was a guy the Packers were interested in last year.

I don't know anything about Davis, but I would like Elijah Moore. The Jets were down on him last year. He'd be a nice fit for the slot. Of course, he'd be a nice slot receiver for the Jets - so who knows. I really liked him coming out of college two years ago. I guess it comes down to what the team thinks of him going forward.

Yeah, you'd think this is the case. Just hashing out details. Only other thing I can think of is Rodgers is having last minute doubts.

I think the big thing is that he's had months to figure this out. I'm guessing the packers and jets would have loved to have figured this out ages ago. But you never know. Maybe it's nothing to do with Rodgers. Perhaps most of it is set, and there are some final tweaks to be done before announcing whatever the decision is.

Rodgers is sitting on a hill somewhere thinking, ‘The jets? Really? Is that it? The Jets? Hmmm….. Maybe I should call the packer front office and chat about coming back. Just to see what they say.’

Time for the Packers to announce they are trading Jordan Love for a 4th round pick, and Rodgers will be back.

This is so silly. Poop or get off the pot.

A formula to be a beloved part of Brewer history is to a) be born and raised in Wisconsin, b) be a grinding, gritty, battling overachiever, and c) be part of some of the best teams in franchise history. Add all that together, and you get Jim “Gumby” Gantner. Image courtesy of © Milwaukee Journal Sentinel via Imagn Content Services, LLC Jim Gantner was born in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, in 1953 and grew up in nearby Eden. He played two seasons at UW-Oshkosh before being selected by the Brewers in the 12th round of the 1974 draft. He moved steadily through the minor league system, playing primarily shortstop and a little 3B. Gantner was not a heralded prospect, showing a solid hit tool and above-average speed (but by no means great speed) - but modest power. The Brewers called up Gantner from AA ball in 1976, giving him a 26-game tryout. That season, he pinch-ran for Hank Aaron in the future hall-of-famer’s final major league game on October 3, 1976. After spending most of 1977 at AAA, Gantner stuck with the club the following year and remained on the roster for 15 years. Initially a utility type playing mostly 2B and 3B, Gantner eventually settled in at 2B for much of his career. He became a regular in 1980 - at age 27 - and provided solid, if unspectacular, play for the next decade. Gantner became the scrappy guy who did the little things and complimented the big bats of the era - Yount, Molitor, Cooper, Thomas, Oglivie, etc. He was not that athletic and lacked standout skills, but he got the job done. Gumby became a vital cog in the high-scoring Brewer machine of the era. He was a remarkably consistent player - generally hitting between about .270-.290 almost every year of his career. He hit over .280 seven times. His power was limited - 11 HRs was his top long ball season - he wasn’t a good base stealer, and he didn’t walk much. But for all that, he put the ball in play - rarely striking out (the highest K number in his career was 51), and - as noted - hitting for a solid batting average. Even as Gantner got older, he still hit for a decent average, even as his modest power diminished even further. Gantner's last season was in 1992. He had played part of the year with a labrum tear and torn rotator cuff. He considered playing longer, but injuries wouldn't allow it. He officially retired in 1994, having played parts of 17 years with Milwaukee. Those 17 seasons with the Brewers - and no other team - ranks him 38th on the list of players to have played their entire career for one club. Robin Yount’s 20 years with the franchise is the Brewer record. Gantner’s best season came in 1983 when he hit .282 with career highs in HR (11), RBI (74), and OPS (.730). For his career, he hit .274 and had an OPS of .671. They weren't great numbers but were not bad for a middle infielder of the era. Also, he was generally an above-average defender, which brought value to his overall game. Due to Gantner's longevity, his name is all over the Brewer record books. Baseball-Reference has him at 22.4 WAR (8th all-time), and his 9.9 defensive WAR is the best for any Brewer career. Other numbers: 1801 games played (3rd all-time), 6189 ABs (4th), 726 runs (5th), 1696 hits (5th), 262 doubles (6th), 38 triples (5th), 568 RBI (9th), 137 SB (5th), 52 HBP (6th), 106 sacrifice hits (#1), 52 sacrifice flies (5th). He also has the 3rd lowest strikeout rate in Brewers' history. Overall, Gantner was a classic overachiever who succeeded through hard work and playing an overall solid game. He was always a positive to the team - but rarely was he anything more than good. But that allowed him to stay around and play in the big leagues for a long time. Fans loved Gartner’s hard play - not to mention his Wisconsin roots. He was an important part of the great Brewer teams of the early 1980s and helped the team reach the World Series for the only time in history (he hit .333 in the fall classic). Gantner was inducted into the UW-Oshkosh Titan Hall of Fame in 1984. He was also inducted into the Wisconsin Sports Hall of Fame in 2005 and is a member of the Brewers Wall of Honor and Walk of Fame. After baseball, Gantner took part in various business ventures and became a coach. He was the Brewers first base coach in 1996-97 and managed the Wisconsin Woodchucks in the Northwoods League in 2007. He moved back to Eden in 2008, where he became the part owner of a pub - Scuds Buds. For years he served as a part-time coach at Brewer home games and participated in clinics and fantasy camps. Please share your memories of former Brewer Jim Gantner. View full article

https://www.theonion.com/aaron-rodgers-reflects-on-life-choices-after-jets-emerg-1850213899

This would be pretty good if we can't get the 1st. I'll add this: Jets get: Rodgers Packers #1 pick (15th) Packers get: Jets #1 pick (13th) Jets #2 pick (43rd) Jets #2 pick in 2024 (upgrades to #1 depending on Rodgers' playing beyond this year) WR Elijah Moore Just a thought. Moore could compete for our slot receiver role this year.

It certainly seems like something is going to happen here. Neither the Packers or Rodgers is denying anything. Regarding compensation - I'd love the 1st round pick from the Jets. Some speculate it won't be that good. But the Jets are in a tough spot. They don't want the Packers walking away and talking to other teams. They need to seal the deal before anything like that happens.

I was thinking about this as well. But there's enough talent to - potentially - do well with Love at the helm. If we reboot, we should move on from guys (such as Bakhtiari) and take as many cap hits as possible this season. But whatever. The front office knows the personnel better than I do. It will be interesting what happens.

Dane Brugler of the Athletic had Branch coming to the Packers with the 15th pick. He said that many will be will be hung up on his 4.58 40 time, but notes he was outstanding during positional drills. And he had 'stellar' meetings. One of the teams he met with was the Packers. Brugler also notes that his versatility would be a great fit in Green Bay’s scheme.

Van Ness is opening a lot of eyes. Could easily be our pick. WR Jaxon Smith-Njigba supposedly looked great (he missed most of 2022 with a hammy injury). I read he looked great on all the agility drills and so forth. He'd be a perfect slot guy for the club.

Exactly. Otherwise Rodgers can just retire if he doesn't like his destination. Nothing happens without all parties being on the same page.

I was reading that there were already some 'maturity' questions about Carter. Everything has come really easy for him, and there are some questions as to his dedication to the game and so forth. He's just never had to work hard to be great so some wonder what will happen when he gets to the NFL. The scary part is if it things actually click for the guy - and he realizes he can be more than just 'good' - but 'great' - by working hard, studying, etc.

If the Packers agree to trade Rodgers, what do people think we'll get for him? The Athletic suggested a deal with the Jets. 1st rounder (15th overall) in 2023, 2nd rounder in 2024 (which turns into a 1st rounder if Rodgers plays in 2024), plus WR Elijah Moore. I like this deal. I thought highly of Moore coming out of college two years ago. He could potentially fill the slot role on the team.

Seems like clickbait stuff.

Thanks. I was reading it's one of the deepest TE drafts in years. Will be interesting to see if we go there.

Branch fits our needs really well. He could be gone before we pick - but we shall see. Safeties tend to drop a bit on draft day as they aren't that sexy of selections. He'd be a solid value at #15. Johnson is currently looked at as a late 1st/early 2nd round pick. The tendency for safeties to drop might get him to us in the 2nd round - but that's unlikely at this time. Of course, all that can change with the combine and pro day results. A guy runs a bit slow or whatever and he can drop really quickly.

Assuming the QB is Love or Rodgers, I don't think the picks should be very different. TE, WR, Edge, S - all major needs. Doesn't mean you don't grab and OL or whatever if someone falls to us, but I think the moves are mostly the same.