Regarding the turning 30 and becoming an old fart thing. Just for fun, I grabbed the names of players from 3 years ago (2002 season), who had 100 RBI or more (why RBI - just used it since it's been discussed a lot lately - no other reason. You could do this with any metric). Since we're talking about offering Carlos a contract starting in 2007, when he'll end the season at 31, I figured I'd include only players near his age as a comparison (players who were 29-33 in 2002). Here it is: 29 Nomar Garciaparra 29 Shawn Green 29 Todd Helton 30 Garret Anderson 30 Carlos Delgado 30 Manny Ramirez 30 Raul Ibanez 30 Chipper Jones 31 Jason Giambi 31 Brian Giles 32 Jim Thome 33 Sammy Sosa 33 Bret Boone It's only 13 guys, so it's not really scientific, but I think the thing that this sample shows is that very few of these guys are better now (in 2005), than they were in 2002. Injuries are all too common of a theme - even for younger folks on the list. Probably 1/2 of the guys have missed significant time due to injuries. Perhaps that's not very different than guys age 25-28 - don't know. The most scary thing about this group is that only a handful of these guys have never gotten through their contracts without that 'overpaid and looking to dump' talk associated with older, fading guys. Also, most of these guys are suffering from diminished fielding skills. Even gold glovers, like Chipper, are far less capable defenders than they used to be. Important note: most of the players - with the exception of the oldest guys - are still serviceable players. Some are great - like Manny and Delgado. But most aren't better or as good. I'm not sold on moving Carlos or whatever. This isn't a ploy to try and convince others it's a good idea to rid ourselves of him. But, adding three years - 2007-2009 - seems a bit risky. I guess it's all in the money and years. The key is probably what the club feels about Hart and Cruz. Like with Hardy, they just felt he could do the job. Do they feel that way about Hart or Cruz? Sometimes that pays off to take that risk. If they feel Hart can replace him with a .800 OPS or whatever, and they get a good trade for Carlos, they'll probably move him. If they're not sold on Hart or Cruz, it's probably best to keep Carlos, let the season go, have the young guys get some PT, and see how they develop. Injuries to Jenks or Clark or Carlos might make the point moot.