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  1. What is the "roughly equivalent" figured into?Pitcher #1: 3.42 ERA 1.24 WHIP 8.69 K/9 Pitcher #2: 3.83 ERA 1.26 WHIP 7.45 K/9 Sure, one is more durable than the other and that is not minimal, but if you look at what they do when they actually pitch, they are "roughly equivalent" in terms of ability.
  2. Yes, but the Brewers gave up MUCH more in terms of talent for roughly equivalent pitchers, plus Harden is under contract for next year as well. The only reason the Brewers had to give up so much more is because Harden has the injury history/issues. The Cubs, I think, are pretty confident that they would make the playoffs even if Harden were to get hurt. I'm guessing that Melvin didn't feel the same, otherwise we way over payed.
  3. The reason this trade is so much better than the CC trade was that there really is little risk from the Cubs perspective. If Harden gets hurt, does it really torpedo their chances this year? No, none of the guys they gave up were starters for them right now. If he stays healthy, they just made themselves appreciatively better. The player with the biggest upside they gave up is Gallagher, and I doubt he ever is much better than a decent #3/4, if he ever gets that good.
  4. Remember that the Sexson trade helped get the Sabathia trade done. Sexson <-> Overbay <-> Zach Jackson <-> Sabathia. If the Sabathia trade works, the balance in the Sexson trade shifts again. Melvin has a hard job. I agree that Melvin has a hard job, but I don't think how CC Sabathia fares as a Brewer has any bearing on the legacy of the Sexson trade. Zack Jackson was a throw-in, a minor piece of the package. The trade would have happened without him. There were probably around 50 other players in our minor league system that could have been substituted.
  5. I've followed the thread so I'm familiar with what agent39 has written, but I was wondering if it would be standard protocol to inform the player/agent that he is on the "list" as a possible PTBNL. Personally, I could see an organization wanting to wait until a player is actually traded, as to not needlessly upset players who don't end up getting traded.
  6. LaPorta and Gamel aren't just prospects who project as Major League starter or regulars, both of them have the real potential to become All-Star caliber hitters. I think both will eventually be better hitters than what Corey Hart and Ryan Braun are doing right now.
  7. Oakland got six players for Haren and one additional, including two current members of their rotation, and outfielder Carlos Gonzalez. Is that cheap? Gonzalez doesn't impress me all that much. An 800 OPS at AA. Only one minor league season with an OPS north of 900, at A+ ball. Sure, Eveland and Smith have been nice surprises, but how much value did Eveland really have prior to this season? We thought so much of him that we traded him for Vargas/Estrada. Smith had decent minor league numbers, but I doubt he was even considered a top 100 prospect at the time of the trade. The Twins got four players for Johan, including Carlos Gomez. Gomez is certainly toolsy, but he seems destined to become Willy Tavaras (maybe with a little bit more pop). People seem to like Guerra's arm, but 46 K's in 83 innings (with 39 BBs) at A+ this season doesn't bode well for his ability to miss bats at higher levels. In my opinion, LaPorta (or to a slightly lesser extent Gamel) seems like much more of a sure thing than any of the guys in those other trades. They were more of the pu-pu platter variety. That doesn't even take into consideration that neither of those team's were trading for a rental. If a platter of Brantley, Green, and Gillespie can get it done, count me in. As far as I would be concerned, LaPorta, Gamel, Salome (if they think he can stick at catcher), Jefferies, and Escobar are all untouchable for a player not signed beyond this season. Of course, my opinion doesn't mean diddly (though Doug if you are reading this, I'd be happy to share my expertise). I want to win now, but I don't want to punt next year to do it.
  8. Why is Sabathia projected to "cost" more than did Haren in a trade?
  9. It makes me very, very nervous to contemplate trading away top prospects (LaPorta, Gamel, et. al) for a rental pitcher, regardless of how awesome that pitcher might be. How's this for a dystopian scenario?: We put together a package centered around LaPorta to pry Sabathia away from the Indians. He does well for us down the stretch, but we end up missing the playoffs to a streaking Mets team. Then Sheets and Sabathia both leave to free agency. Our rotation at that point is: 1. Gallardo (coming off of surgery) 2. Parra 3. Suppan 4. Bush 5. McClung I don't see how that rotation is good enough to carry us to the post season. Additionally, we just gave away one of the few assets that could theoretically help us bring in a pitcher for next year and beyond. I am not against trading prospects, but it is very risky for a small market team to trade high level prospects for a rental because we can't just plug our future holes with high priced free agents. If I was going to trade LaPorta (who I think might turn into a cross between Burrell and Thome) I'd want to get back a cornerstone rotation guy who we control for a number of years. It seems to me that most of the trade scenarios presented in this thread are arguably more valuable than the one's offered to get Haren or Santana. How is 3 months of Sabathia more valuable than those guys signed long-term? I think I'd target somebody like Matt Cain or Shaun Marcum for LaPorta+. That gives us a better chance now, and in the future.
  10. All I want to know is: What is the title? I think the word "international" is in it. Thank you.
  11. If Yost was smart, he'd have brought in Branyan to face the righty.
  12. Is getting on-base mutually exclusive from hitting home runs? Of course not. The argument isn't (or shouldn't be) that one is important and the other isn't. Hitting for power and getting on base both matter. Some players are really good at one aspect and not the other (Giles, Fukudome). Others like Braun have tremendous power, but make a whole bunch of outs. The key point is that some players are excelling at both. The argument is not either or but both. Also, It's not like a home run doesn't count for OBP. It counts just the same as a walk or a hit. You can then determine whether the hitter is hitting all singles or lots of doubles and homers by looking at his SLG%.
  13. I'm sure that the straw man that you're arguing against is now convinced you are correct. Who said that power is not important? You are creating a false binary. It is not against the rules to get on base a whole bunch and have power. To wit: (OBP/SLG) Pat Burrell .433/.614 Ryan Ludwick .380/ .648 Nate McLouth .385/ .567 Jason Bay .400/ .532 Matt Holiday .402/ .528 Adam Dunn .396/ .524 Ryan Braun .316/ .559 As a Milwaukean and Brewers fan I hope Braun makes it, but any argument that posits that Braun deserves to be a starter on the All-Star team is being guided by the heart (not that there is anything wrong with that--the game doesn't count after all).
  14. Braun does not deserve to be an All-Star starter based upon his season thus far. He simply makes too many outs. That being said, I am rooting for him to start because it would be fun to watch him play and represent the Brewers.
  15. I'd be open to trading Fielder for a top of the rotation starter. Resign Sheets and all of a sudden your rotation is one of the best in the league: 1. Sheets 2. Gallardo 3. Lincecum/Felix Hernandez/Kazmir/maybe Marcum 4. Suppan 5. Parra It is entirely possible that those other teams wouldn't part with their young established pitching, but Prince is young and very, very good. I think that LaPorta and Gamel can make up for most of the offense lost by trading Prince.
  16. Clemens, without a moment's hesitation. I was only about 10 years old at the time, but even at that age I could tell that the voters made a mistake. How can you give the Cy to a pitcher who was probably only the third best pitcher on his own team? I remember being astounded at the time. Alas, I soon came to understand that baseball folk of a certain ilk tend to judge individual pitchers solely by "what really matters"--wins and losses. Eck was pretty sick that year too, but I'll take 228 innings of dominance over 73 innings of super-dominance.
  17. Career OPS: Branyan .807 Hall .781 One can't hit righties; the other can't hit lefties...if only there was some solution...
  18. I don't want to come off as insensitive and when I first heard this story I couldn't believe that they were thinking about not letting him compete, but the more I thought about it, the more complex I realized the issue is. At what point does sport say that bionic or non-living body parts convey an unfair advantage? Perhaps it doesn't in this case, but we all know that technology will just keep getting better and better. What about a pitcher who loses his hand in an accident and has some sort of jai alai shoot implanted on his injured arm who can then throw 130mph? Of course, on the other hand, how many current players have had injuries mended with titanium plates under the skin? I'm sure that non-natural addition to the body improves their performance relative to the body's natural recuperative powers.
  19. The ump is cold. He want to get back to the hotel ASAP.
  20. Over his last 42 innings Gagne has an ERA of 6.43. Has any elite closer ever had a similar stretch of "bad luck" for that long and then reverted to elite form? To be fair, he doesn't need to be elite, just good enough for the Brewers to make the playoffs. Has any good closer been that bad for 42 innings and then was good again after?
  21. 2LiveBrew, Good point. I think 2 reasons: 1. At a certain point a series of small sample sizes becomes a trend. I think we are heading in that direction. 2. I am a stats guy, but I don't discount purely emperical data. Prior to this season, I had to rely solely on stats and scouts. Now I've watched him pitch this season, and I am no scout, but his fastball is average at best. I hope I'm wrong, but he looks like he doesn't have IT anymore.
  22. Should Gagne have pitched X number of games in a row? No. But, in my opinion, Gagne's problem is not that his arm is overtaxed, it's that he just isn't good anymore. I was having a conversation with my boss, who is a big Gagne fan (why?), who was trying to defend him by saying that Gagne only pitches bad when it is wet/raining. I had to do everything in my power to bite my tongue so I didn't respond with "Gagne only pitches bad when he's breathing." Gagne's failings are not on Ned Yost, they rest squarely on the shoulders of Doug Melvin. Just for the record, I was totally in the "sign Gagne" camp this offseason. I thought, looking at his numbers, that the Red Sox thing was just a blip--small sample size, etc.--but I, like Doug Melvin, was wrong. Gagne totally blows (saves). The sooner we cut our losses and install Riske, Mota, or whomever else as our closer, the better our chances of making the playoffs.
  23. You mean this Cliff Floyd? April 9, 2008 Placed on 15-day DL (Torn meniscus, right knee) http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5177/news
  24. backupcatchers, No offense taken. We all have a tendency to get a bit demonstrative when it comes to Yost, regardless of what side of the fence we may be standing on.
  25. I am over it. If you look back at the larger context of my comments, I began by saying that people should stop blaming Yost simply as a knee-jerk reaction to any loss. I brought up the Mench/Jenkins thing as an example of when (I think) criticism is warrented. I really don't want to see Ned fired this season. Not because I think that good old Nedly is the cat's pajamas, but because his firing would probably indicate that things are not going well in the standings.
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