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Nope. http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080329&content_id=2464940&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb&fext=.jsp Dickey had to clear waivers first. So yes, Wang can be traded to any club BESIDES the Pirates, but the provisions of the rule 5 draft transfer to that club. That hasn't been up for debate. What CANT HAPPEN, is Wang to be traded from/with the Pirates without first being passed through unrevocable waivers, such as the Mariners and Twins did with Dickey.

Very well said! I was going to post similiar thoughts about Maldonado's pitch selection when the game was going on, but figured it would come across as just excuses, so I didn't bother. I've liked Lucroy's game management of Wang, but not Maldonado's one bit.

This is inaccurate. I suggest everyone read up on the rules surrounding Rule 5 here: http://www.thecubreporter.com/book/export/html/3517 So, if the Brewers put him on waivers, they can't revoke it. If a team claims Wang, he's gone. There is no ability to play teams against each other to try and up trade value. Everyone has been told this repeatedly for weeks, but some people continue to perpetuate the belief that the Brewers can simply call up the Pirates and work out a trade without exposing him to waivers...amongst other theories. I hope people do read the link again, thanks for posting!

You're absolutely right. He doesn't belong on the major league roster. But that is the rules of the Rule 5 Draft. I disagree that they "took a shot, hoping he'd be effective." Rather, they made a decision and were willing to live with this known outcome. It wasn't an experiment that simply didn't work.

I acknowledged that he MAY indeed cost them some games, but all by himself? Even if he does, I'm okay with the 25th man on the roster being solely responsible for losses. We are the Astros or Cubs..we are! Don't let this mirage of April fool you. Wang has not stopped us from contending, has he? I keep hearing that playoff teams can't possibly have a Wang on their roster in April & May. Are we not a first place team with Wang? Are the May struggles the result of Wang pitching as the 25th man on the team? Would we have clinched the division by now with "someone who's deserved it" pitching in that role instead?

The Brewers are playing with 25 guys just like all the other 29 teams. Looking down at the 13th pitcher for a lot of clubs and I see similiar numbers of innings pitched. While the results may be better, I don't see it taxing the other men in the bullpen. Lots of guys cost teams games. ANOTHER arm from Nashville could come and "cost the Brewers a game" as the 13th pitcher. Where your opinion and mine differ is that I don't have a problem if Wang is solely responsible for costing us a couple wins, all by himself. Wouldn't care. However, I don't think Wang is SOLELY responsible for costing this team any games yet this season. I don't think if you replace Wang with Nelson that the Brewers have a single additional win. The playoffs are not riding on the 13th pitcher being lights out with MLB stuff. It just isn't. While it's a seperate note, this hot streak to open the season has gotten people the case of "playoff fever". I thought we were a 78 win team to be honest and that is seemingly the situation where people would be okay with having Wang for 90 days to be able to put him back in the minors. Suddenly, because we've marched out to a 6.5 game lead as of May 10th, we have to approach the roster construction differently? Even though with Wang we've marched to that lead, if we miss out on the playoffs by one game, somebody is going to bring up that bad outing in Atlanta and blame the whole season on that decision? This team is not a 103 game winner. But they were winning at that clip WITH Wang! I have no problems with them managing the roster like the 78-win team I believe them to be AND having over their heads success in the process all while following the rules and stacking talent in the minors. If Wang, all by himself, costs us a handful of games, I'm fine with it.

Briggs, I'm begging you to learn the rules of the Rule 5 Draft. While it may not change your opinion that Wang will never reach a level above AA, it might facilitate your knowledge of WHY the Brewers are acting as they are, aside from their evaluation of Wang's talent. If Wang clears waivers and is offered back to the Pirates for 25k, they DO NOT have to put him on their 40-man roster if they accept him back. Wang would have no rights and would be back on the Pirates High-A team. Secondly, many players run out of options before they are major league ready. Wang may NEVER become major league ready. It's my opinion that is not a good enough reason to not try and develop him after the Brewers have satisfied the requirements of the Rule 5 Draft.

(Wang on the roster) is not a project. It's not an experiment. It's not a charade. It is a conscious decision to keep him in the system and take him from a division opponent via the rules of the Rule 5 draft. It's not a test tube situation where the Brewers are scratching their heads saying, "huh, that "experiment" didn't work", let's throw out the results and experiment with somebody else." To be clear, I too want Wang in Brevard, but the Brewers don't just get to poach talent from other organizations without following the rules. Wang doesn't have to pitch another day in the majors beyond 2014 and I still wouldn't see the problem with him giving up some gopher balls in games that are likely lost already for other reasons (like scoring runs on offense), just on the slimest of chances that he might produce something 4 years from now at the age of 26. The question isn't what he's showing today, it's can he be kept in the organization to grow into something that is completely different that what he can show today? Why we aren't willing to to have him on the roster for 90 days to get a shot to develop him over the next 4 years blows my mind. This team is winning at a .620+ clip WITH HIM and if it wasn't for offensive ineptitude, we'd have the best record in the major leagues. The belief that Duke being the long man and Nelson being in the bullpen and Wang sitting in Brevard (After that fallacy of a trade with Pittsburg AFTER no team claims him and Pittsburg says, "nah we won't pay 25k to get him back) doesn't add any wins to the register. That move doesn't make us any more of a playoff contender than where we sit now. I realize my view point that he isn't hurting the team isn't shared universally, but to get some talent infused into the minor league system, I'm willing to have Wang be the sole reason we lose a few games this season. I've yet to see that happen and the belief that the bullpen is full of dead arms as a result also isn't bearing fruit in the numbers.

No. What does it matter who pitches when you can't score runs? I find it laughable that people think this is a 60 win team that can't compete for a playoff spot because Wang is on it. But without him suddenly we are going to compete and be a 100 win team and the bullpen will just be the most rested and well oiled machine in the majors. I mean, get Nelson up here to Milwaukee pronto, let Duke be the long man and I can order my World Series T-shirt. Wang must be costing us atleast 85% of our losses for the strain he's been putting on the pen. Our offense ust keeps hitting and the damn bullpen is so tired that they give it all back! If we could just replace that 13th pitcher, this team could really go on a tear. Instead, we are a middling .600 club. Shameful.

For the love of God...please just stop perpetuating false roster rules! He cannot be offered to the Pirates in a trade. He needs to be waived (which will be reported by MLB transactions) and then not claimed by the other 29 teams. Then and ONLY then can he be offered to the Pirates for 25K. Then and ONLY then can they decline and offer a trade.

You mean you have to take some pitches for the other team to make some mistakes once in a while? What a novel concept. Clearly swinging away and bunting away on the first pitch gives us the best opportunity to advanced bases.

You mean you have to take some pitches for the other team to make some mistakes once in a while? What a novel concept. Clearly swinging away and bunting away on the first pitch gives us the best opportunity to advanced bases.

I don't understand Segura bunting on the first pitch. Gomez steals a base, THEN you bunt and Brauns long fly gives you a run. It's dumb decisions like these that take them out of games early. Then the Braves come up and show them how it's done and the game is over before the 2nd inning because this team can't come from behind to save their lives.

Send this bum to Huntsville, promote someone to Nashville, and get Fiers up to Milwaukee.

Braun was on the cover with Tulo, Upton, and somebody else, IIRC. Edit: Nevermind, I guess that was a special preview edition and likely doesnt count for the trivia deal. http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/2008/0331_large.jpg

Add Jose Fernandez

I wonder if Morales can handle ALL those day games? Offensively our platoon is driving in runs and winning games. Any Morales deal would hopefully be for 2015. We better ask for very little day games, it possible in 2015, otherwise potential free agents are automatically crossed off.

So now we base our FA decisions on AL vs NL rules/scheduling? I understand that he's trying to say that some guys are best suited to DH, but good grief, he added up the day games and thought, "naw, that's too may day games for Hart to play after a night game. Those trots to first base will make him ineffective." •Brewers GM Doug Melvin acknowledged that Kendrys Morales’ name came up in the team’s first base discussions, but, “there are just a pool of players we can’t consider because of the National League-American League dynamic. That’s why I’m hoping we’re all playing by the same set of rules someday. It’s a reason we had to let Corey Hart go because we play 36 day games and it’s tough to come back after a night game.” Do you think by "playing by the same set of rules", Melvin favors the DH or eliminating it?

If anybody is oblivious, something special brewing in Arlington.

Kintzler...more runs allowed.

1 pitch and the game is over. I got the ugly feeling this team will be .500 by June 10th.

On paper...we pheasant plucked.

Because he might come close to crashing into the wall in the outfield? Not sure what familiarity with a stadium would help a pitcher. Yes, I realize CWS don't make it to Miller Park often and that is the crux of the original statement. Just a dumb statement even if he had been with the Cubs.

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He's not a competent set-up man. He's a 6th or 7th inning kind of guy.