I cannot beleive anyone wants this team to pack it in this early. How early is it? We're basically 1/3 of the way through the season. To finish with 85 wins (which still wouldn't get us into the playoffs most likely) we would have to finish with a 64-46 record or a 94 win pace. Do you see this team winning at that pace for 2/3 of a season? I sure as hell don't. Why on Earth would anyone want to watch a bunch of crappy players going through the motions. Why does it have to be a bunch of crappy players? Why can't it be this? Outfield: Braun/Gomez/Cain (Edmonds and Hart traded) Infield: McGehee/Escobar/Weeks/??? if Fielder is traded Catcher: Kottaras/Lucroy Still a bunch of young guys. Maybe they're crappy to start, but so what? Let them start everyday in a season that doesn't matter win/loss wise and let them get their feet wet in the majors. Then you would still have Axford, Braddock, Villanueva, Coffey and maybe Estrada if you call them back up. Some young guys with little MLB experience getting their feet wet. Put Parra back in the rotation with Gallardo and Narveson. Hopefully Bush and Davis pitch better so you could possibly get something for them at the deadline. I doubt Wolf will be traded since we overpaid him and no one will take his contract. And I didn't even bring up Capuano until now. He definitely wouldn't be going through the motions even if he was crappy. So you could watch Braun, Gomez, Cain, McGehee, Escobar, Weeks, Kottaras, Lucroy, Axford, Braddock, Villanueva, Estrada, Gallardo, Parra, Capuano and Narveson everyday. That's 16 of the 25 that would be excited to watch and wouldn't just be "crappy players going through the motions." They would know they have to impress to stay on the roster. If anyone doesn't have a problem with that needs to check their sanity. What? I'd rather watch a bunch of young guys and lose 100 games than fight tooth and nail with a bunch of veterans for that ever elusive 81st win, which we won't get close to. I have no desire to watch a bunch of veterans try to win as many games as possible but still suck. The difference between 81 wins and 61 is the difference of 20 days where I feel a little better and the sun shines a little brighter even though I know it's only temporary. So you feel a little better temporarily for 20 days. In the end you still have the same result. No playoffs for your favorite team. I'd be more interested in watching young guys play in the majors than winning 20 more games with vets who are on the decline. It's also the difference between a team close to contention and one that needs to start over and is five years away. So last year, we won 80 games and were close to contention. We go and supposedly improve our pitching staff in the offseason, so why aren't we contenders now? And no, it doesn't have to take five years either. All of whilom depends on how it's handled now. I just don't see how quitting as a team teaches the right way to handle tough situations. IT'S NOT QUITTING! Quitting means packing it in and not trying. Trading Prince or Hart doesn't mean you're quitting. It means that you realize it's extremely unlikely that you're going to win anything this year and also that it's extremely unlikely that Prince signs an extension and extremely unlikely that Hart is part of the long term future of this franchise. So you trade them now for guys who can help in the future while telling the guys that are still on the team we want you to go out and still try hard and try your best to win games. They may not win, but like I said, I'd much rather watch a bunch of young guys lose than a bunch of veterans.