Quero prospect trade

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On 2/29/2024 at 7:34 AM, MrTPlush said:

Depends on what the extension is. He has a high floor, but his odds of being at his floor versus an All-Star are WAY higher than it is for a guy in the OF. Not to mention catcher salaries are notably less than most positions. At the start of last year there were only 4 catchers in baseball set to make north of $10mil. Without looking I would have to guess a 'meh' starting catcher propped up by his defense doesn't fair very well in arbitration, hypothetically. 

8/$35mil? Plus, two generous option years like Chourio? Even $35mil guaranteed feels like a bit too much for a catcher. 

Problem with Abner Uribe is the fact he isn't very young...he is pretty old honestly. Any extension would spill into his 30s... relievers are already fickle as it is...let alone at 30+. It would have to be a pretty darn cheap extension with the goal really just hoping to avoid $10mil+ reliever salaries in his arby years. 

Uribe isn't very young? He's only 23. Not sure how that's considered old. I WISH I was still 23. 🤣

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On 3/1/2024 at 12:29 PM, bigred said:

Uribe isn't very young? He's only 23. Not sure how that's considered old. I WISH I was still 23. 🤣

Considering he has all six years left of control, no, he isn't very young. That puts him at reaching FA at 29, with a contract starting at age 30. That is an okay age to hit FA...but if he signed an extension his next potential FA time is dramatically worse. If Quero got to debut this year and start his clock, an extension would be a lot more mutually beneficial because he could give up 8 years of control and still hit FA at 30. He would get the safety net contract and still have time to get a massive payday if he pans out. Hardly a loss at that point.

The fact central American players seem to sign early extensions probably has a lot to do with the fact their careers start so early. Having the ability to get into MiLB ball at a younger age (and the camps in their early-mid teen years) is an insane benefit over US players. Chourio signed a massive contract and will still easily hit FA at 30 years old, with a chance at another massive payday. If Sal Frelick signed the same extension he would hit FA at 34, big payday opportunity will never exist. It makes no sense to sign Frelick for anything less than 8 years, but to him, anything more than 6 years is really unattractive to him.

 

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23 hours ago, MrTPlush said:

Considering he has all six years left of control, no, he isn't very young. That puts him at reaching FA at 29, with a contract starting at age 30. That is an okay age to hit FA...but if he signed an extension his next potential FA time is dramatically worse. If Quero got to debut this year and start his clock, an extension would be a lot more mutually beneficial because he could give up 8 years of control and still hit FA at 30. He would get the safety net contract and still have time to get a massive payday if he pans out. Hardly a loss at that point.

The fact central American players seem to sign early extensions probably has a lot to do with the fact their careers start so early. Having the ability to get into MiLB ball at a younger age (and the camps in their early-mid teen years) is an insane benefit over US players. Chourio signed a massive contract and will still easily hit FA at 30 years old, with a chance at another massive payday. If Sal Frelick signed the same extension he would hit FA at 34, big payday opportunity will never exist. It makes no sense to sign Frelick for anything less than 8 years, but to him, anything more than 6 years is really unattractive to him.

 

Imo, if they were to sign either to an early extension, it would be Quero. Although Uribe can be absolutely dominant at times, he also has stretches where he can't seem to find the strike zone to save his soul. Until he starts being much more consistent on the mound, Uribe is a hard pass for me.