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  • 3 Uncovered Trade Gems for the Brewers


    Jason Wang

    MLB Trade Rumors have been dominated by some of the sport’s biggest names, like Shohei Ohtani, Nolan Arenado, and Pete Alonso. However, given the Brewers' limited payroll, they will likely divert their attention away from the brightest stars and toward slightly more obscure value. Here are three players that could add some value to the team, without costing an arm and a leg.
     

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    1) Lane Thomas (WSN, OF)
    Spending pretty much all of his time in right field thus far this season, he’s the best bat on the Nationals, slashing .292/.339/.490 for an OPS of .829 and an OPS+ of 130. His best feature (other than his smile)? He crushes lefties. Over 131 plate appearances against left-handed pitching this season, he’s slashed an incredible .364/.412/.653 for an OPS of 1.065. Meanwhile, the current Brewers lineup is posting a team OPS of .680 against LHP, second worst in MLB. 

    Thomas has a few concerning characteristics, however. While his OPS is better than league average, batted-ball data would suggest he’s gotten lucky along the way, posting a 32nd-percentile xwOBA. He also strikes out quite a bit (25th-percentile K%) and doesn’t walk much (15th-percentile BB%). His defense also leaves something to be desired, as he's posted -2 Defensive Runs Saved (DRS) and -3 Outs Above Average (OAA). 

    The Brewers' depth chart at right field lists Tyrone Taylor, Brian Anderson (10-day IL), Joey Wiemer, Owen Miller, Blake Perkins, and Raimel Tapia. While Thomas’s glove isn’t quite up to scratch, his offensive contributions would likely eclipse any of the names currently in right field, and the exceptional defense by the other Brewers outfielders might be able to compensate.

    Lane Thomas is currently signed through 2023 on a one-year, $2.2-million deal and will be a free agent in 2026. 

    2) Connor Joe (PIT, OF/1B)
    In addition to splitting time in the outfield corners, Joe has also spent 136 innings playing first base this season. He’s performed decently at the plate, slashing .242/.331/.423 for an OPS of .754 and an OPS+ of 105. Similar to Thomas, he also performs exceptionally well against southpaws, posting a .912 OPS over 111 plate appearances. His OPS against righties is a little lackluster at .654, but he could have value as a platoon guy.

    Also similar to Thomas, he strikes out a considerable amount (16th-percentile K%), but he has some pop, decent plate discipline (68th-percentile BB%), and an excellent chase rate (97th percentile). 

    He may not be as much of an impact bat as your ideal first baseman, but with the current depth chart listing Rowdy Tellez (10-day IL), Darin Ruf (60-day IL), and Owen Miller (91 OPS+), can the Brewers really afford to be picky?

    Joe is currently on a one-year, $735,000 deal and will be a free agent in 2028.

    3) Justin Turner (BOS, DH/1B)
    Turner is having another strong year in a career marked by rigid consistency and may be a great acquisition piece, especially since he’s primarily served as a DH for the Red Sox this year while also playing 213 innings at first base. His slash line of .289/.358/.478 is good for an OPS+ of 122, which would constitute a big upgrade over the Brewers’ existing options at DH. The current depth chart lists Jesse Winker (59 OPS+), Darin Ruf, Christian Yelich, and William Contreras.

    To continue the theme, Turner performs extremely well against left-handed pitching, posting a .972 OPS over 117 plate appearances thus far this season. He has also steadily improved his offense over the course of the season, starting with a .723 OPS in April, .792 OPS in May, .865 OPS in June, and 1.074 OPS so far in July. His stock is quite literally rising. However, unlike the theme, he does not strike out often and has an 84th percentile K%. He doesn’t chase (77th percentile), whiff (87th percentile), and has been known to take the occasional stroll to first base (52nd-percentile BB%). His defense isn’t anything to write home about, but as a designated hitter, that’s the definition of a nonissue. 

    That being said, Turner might be a little too rich for the Brewers’ tastes, as he's currently on a one-year, $15-million contract. He’ll also be a free agent in 2024, so he might not stick around for very long, assuming he does make the trip out to the Badger State.

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    Jake McKibbin
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    Conor Joe is a great shout... Hadn't heard his name anywhere, but he's been fantastic for the pirates, especially against lefties and plays quality outfield defense. A good fit for RF?

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    These are good options, but not ideal.  Turner would be my choice just not sure the Brewers can afford that salary.  We may have to send more prospects if Bos eats salary.  The other two would surely be an upgrade in our lineup this year.  However, they are also long term assets and its unlikely we need outfielders long term with Mitchell, Frelick, and Chourio available next year.  It would be better if these two were rentals.  Longer term, I see Joe and Thomas as bench bats as well.  They would start this year, just not real confident they are starters in a few years.  Not sure what they would cost us but its going to be more than their value to us this year.

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    I thought I'd check Baseball Trade Values to see what we would have to give up for Thomas.  I was encouraged when I saw the website states they just updated their trade values.  But, if they did, they did not do it well...

    They have Thomas with a value of 16.8.  A fair trade according to the website is Tyler Black (7.8), Luis Lara (7.8), and Logan Henderson (1.2).  Umm, no thank you.  They have Owen Miller with a 14.3 value and Luis Medina with a 8.1 value.  I think they need some new staff.

    Who would you give up for Thomas or Conor Joe.  I could see Lara, though not sure I would want to do that.  Really don't want to give up Black.

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    2 hours ago, ClosetBrewerFan said:

    They have Thomas with a value of 16.8.  A fair trade according to the website is Tyler Black (7.8), Luis Lara (7.8), and Logan Henderson (1.2).  Umm, no thank you.  They have Owen Miller with a 14.3 value and Luis Medina with a 8.1 value.

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    Jason Wang
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    3 hours ago, ClosetBrewerFan said:

    I thought I'd check Baseball Trade Values to see what we would have to give up for Thomas.  I was encouraged when I saw the website states they just updated their trade values.  But, if they did, they did not do it well...

     

    So curious how they come up with these values. Is it magic? A Ouija board? Does it depend on the player's horoscope sign? Who knows?

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    1 hour ago, JasonWang7517 said:

    So curious how they come up with these values. Is it magic? A Ouija board? Does it depend on the player's horoscope sign? Who knows?

    For prospects it comes from the FV score.  You can see the value here:

    https://www.fangraphs.com/prospects/farm-system-rankings

    So for Lara and Black that would mean they would be like FV 45+ which seems reasonable given where they were at season's beginning.

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    8 minutes ago, endaround said:

    For prospects it comes from the FV score.  You can see the value here:

    https://www.fangraphs.com/prospects/farm-system-rankings

    So for Lara and Black that would mean they would be like FV 45+ which seems reasonable given where they were at season's beginning.

    I'd have no problem if the values were based on pre-season rankings (though Medina has not been a prospect in 2 years).  However, when you go to the trade simulator page it brings up a banner saying All values have been updated to represent the 60% mark on the season.  That just doesn't seem to be the case.  Owen Miller was acquired via cash so hard to believe he was worth 14,3 value and should not be considered that now (maybe in May you could say that).

    I used to use this site as a double-check to see if a trade seems fair but it does not seem reliable anymore.

     

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    For Miller it likely is using this year as a basis.  So like 1 to 1.5 wins.  Now he likely won't reach that, but that aside that gives him like $4 million in excess value the rest of this  year, $8 million next year if they deduct half a win, and like $1-3m in first year of arby. Now is that reasonable for Miller? Not really.  But that is because valuation isn't really linear and breaks for bench players who receive less than $8 million per expected win.

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    14 hours ago, ClosetBrewerFan said:

      It would be better if these two were rentals.  

    This. I like Lane Thomas quite a bit, & have to admit I never thought of Joe. If they were rentals I'd be doing some serious talking, Their current status IMO makes them both less attractive and more expensive.

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