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  • Bring Him Home: How the Brewers Could Reunite With Josh Hader Today


    Jackson Gottfreid

    Tuesday marks the Brewers' last chance to fortify their roster for a dogfight in the NL Central, where three teams will jockey for the crown. Could they turn back to a familiar star to fully prepare themselves?

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    One of the most shocking days in Milwaukee Brewers history came on August 1, 2022. The Brewers dealt All-star closer Josh Hader to the San Diego Padres, while holding a three-game lead on the St. Louis Cardinals for first place in the NL Central. Milwaukee held an 80.7% chance to win the division, and a 90.4% chance to make the playoffs, according to FanGraphs. As we know, neither of these probabilities were fulfilled, as the Brewers limped to the finish line without their frontline closer, falling short even of the newly created third Wild Card. Fast forward a year later, and the Brewers have an opportunity for a reunion.

    During the 2023 campaign for those same Padres, Hader has been elite. The 29-year-old is having a career year with the Friars. He’s posted a 0.90 ERA in 40 innings, while racking up 25 saves. He has tied his career low in hits per 9 innings (H/9) at 3.8. Although Petco Park, the home of the Padres, is known as a pitcher’s park, Hader has had fairly even home/road splits. At home, the flamethrowing lefty has a staggering .099 batting average against, while it’s only a .156 batting average against him on the road. In addition, hitters are only slugging .017 higher on the road than at home against Hader. No matter which park Hader is in, hitters are still not making quality contact. 

    A deeper dive into his advanced metrics further illustrates how difficult it is for hitters to square him up. According to Baseball Savant, Hader ranks in the top 1% of all Major League pitchers in HardHit% against, at 22.7; strikeout rate, at 38.1 percent; expected batting average, at .132; and expected slugging, at .179. He isn’t getting lucky. His average exit velocity against is 85.7 miles per hour, which ranks in the top 5% of the league. Hader has truly been dominant all season. 

    Although the Padres have had a disappointing season to date, their sweep over the weekend on the AL West-leading Texas Rangers put them back into the thick of things in the NL Wild Card race. Therefore, the price tag on Josh Hader is an expensive one. Padres General Manager A.J. Preller is no stranger to being a part of large deadline moves. A season ago, Preller traded for All-star slugger Juan Soto and first baseman Josh Bell from the Washington Nationals, in exchange for shortstop C.J. Abrams and left-handed pitcher Mackenzie Gore, both of whom were highly regarded in the Padres’ system before they made it to MLB. In addition, San Diego traded their No. 1, No. 3, and No. 14 prospects. 

    If the Brewers want a reunion with Hader and to bolster the bullpen for a run deep into October, Milwaukee is going to have to shop some of their best prospects. Because he’s now an impending free agent, though, the price tag will be lower, and bringing Hader home would come with so much less uncertainty than most deadline acquisitions do. The Brewers know Hader. They know how to fix him when he breaks, and they know how he fits into their clubhouse. It’s worth considering. 

    Whom The Brewers Would Need to Trade

    Garrett Mitchell

    Mitchell debuted with the Brewers late in the 2022 MLB season. He was a highly-touted outfielder when Milwaukee selected him in the first round of the 2020 MLB draft out of UCLA. Within two full seasons in the minor leagues, Mitchell was called up, and he made an immediate impact with the Crew. In 28 games last season, Mitchell had an OPS of .832, and he was slated to be the everyday center fielder in 2023. Unfortunately, earlier this season, he tore his labrum, which required surgery that effectively ended his season. Mitchell’s contract would be team-friendly for the Padres as well. He is still in the pre-arbitration phase, and isn’t eligible for the raises that system affords until 2026.  If the Padres are willing to be patient with Mitchell’s rehab, the trio of Soto, Fernando Tatis Jr., and Mitchell would be one of the best outfields in baseball. 

    Jeferson Quero

    Quero was an international signing by the Brewers in 2019, out of Venezuela. The catcher ranks third in the Brewers farm system, and 71st in all of baseball, according to MLB.com. In 233 at-bats in Double-A Biloxi, the 20-year-old has 13 home runs and an OPS of .871. The Padres have a young catcher at the big-league level in Luis Campusano, but he hasn’t been able to find his footing as a hitter since his debut in 2020. For Quero, his chance to make an impact at the major-league level would potentially be higher with the Padres because of the opportunity presented in San Diego. William Contreras doesn’t hit the free agent market until 2028. Therefore, Quero may not see everyday opportunities with Milwaukee for quite some time. 

    In all likelihood, the Brewers would quail at including Quero in a straight-up deal for Hader. He’d be an alternative to Mitchell, not an accompaniment, and if he were swapped in as the centerpiece of the deal, the deal might need to further expand, with the Padres adding a depth arm of some kind and the Brewers also kicking in a player like Eric Lauer to even out their 40-man roster equation.

    In years past, the Brewers' front office has been hesitant to send high-value prospects to other teams in exchange for rental pieces. However, Hader isn’t any old player. He has a history with this organization. He also belongs to the highest-value demographic of short-term additions at the deadline. Could the Brewers splurge to bring the fan favorite back to Milwaukee to tighten up the back end of the bullpen? Reinstating the combination of Devin Williams and Hader from a season ago feels like the perfect match. A reunion could be the missing piece in taking an excellent bullpen to new heights late in the season. 

    Edited by Jackson Gottfreid

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    UGHHHHHH!

    When will this nonsense stop?

    Not a chance in hell Quero is traded for a bullpen arm that will be here for 2 months.

    *sigh*

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    Even if the Brewers were willing to part with Quero in a deal (which I kind of doubt), it sure as heck wouldn't be for a rental reliever, even if he is Josh Hader. 

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    These articles the last few days are outrageously bad suggesting we trade some of our top prospects for rentals when this team has a negative run differential. I would like to see an article suggesting we cash in on Burnes and trade him for a haul. No I don't see this team trading Burnes but its the right thing to do and a heck of a lot smarter than trading legitimate prospects for rentals.

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    2 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

    Quero or Mitchell for 2 months of a RP. Hilarious stuff.

    I especially like the part about Mitchells' contract being team-friendly for SD. Yeah, Preller always puts a high-priority on cost-saving.

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    At this point, might a better option for the long term be to bring up Small and/or Andrews? 

    Don't get me wrong, I'd love Hader back, but the best package to send would be Peguero, Small, Alexander, and Blake Perkins. Nothing higher for a two-month rental.

    Then again... extensions are possible.

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    1 hour ago, clancyphile said:

    At this point, might a better option for the long term be to bring up Small and/or Andrews? 

    Don't get me wrong, I'd love Hader back, but the best package to send would be Peguero, Small, Alexander, and Blake Perkins. Nothing higher for a two-month rental.

    Then again... extensions are possible.

    Extensions for who?  Peguero or Small?  Send me the list of premium veteran players traded at the deadline the season prior to reaching free agency who then signed a contract extension instead of becoming a free agent in the offseason.  Nevermind, I actually have that list presented below:

     

     

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    Technically, "home" for Hader in terms of the organizations would be the Orioles since they drafted and signed him.  They or the Astros make alot more sense as trade partners than the Brewers do at the moment.  Or, the Braves.

     

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    I just have to question the writers fan affiliations a lot on this site.  I know one of their writers is a bonafied Cubs fan, so I never give his articles an ounce of thought.  Now I have to question others as well as these articles, especially the "trade" articles are a complete joke.  They have to be written by fans of other teams, they just have to...

    It's quite sad really.

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    10 minutes ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

    Extensions for who?  Peguero or Small?  Send me the list of premium veteran players traded at the deadline the season prior to reaching free agency who then signed a contract extension instead of becoming a free agent in the offseason.  Nevermind, I actually have that list presented below:

     

     

    I think he meant an extension for Hader, by the Brewers after acquiring him in the trade.

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    4 minutes ago, TURBO said:

    I think he meant an extension for Hader, by the Brewers after acquiring him in the trade.

    Oh I know...which is why I included the list of great veteran players who signed contract extensions with teams that traded for them at the deadline instead of becoming a free agent after the season to show how realistic that possibility is.  

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    Are you kidding?  I'd throw up in my mouth and gladly swallow if we traded Mitch or Quero for short term control of Hader.  

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    I get that it is a sellers market, but they aren't getting more than we did when he is a free agent in 2 months and we traded over a year of control  

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    3 hours ago, Samurai Bucky said:

    How do you think the clubhouse will react if Hader came back?  Who would be the closer -- Williams or Hader?

    I think they'd gladly accept him back, but I'd have Williams the main closer.  In the playoffs, I'm sure both would have chances.  But Williams would be here long term.

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    8 hours ago, Ron Robinsons Beard said:

    Even if the Brewers were willing to part with Quero in a deal (which I kind of doubt), it sure as heck wouldn't be for a rental reliever, even if he is Josh Hader. 

    I mean, we're past this now, but....you'd need a Dylan Cease like return(just using this deadline). 

     

    I understand the forum is trying to create content, but it's just SUCH a terrible idea to trade away top young prospcts for a closer, much less probably the best catching prospect you've had since Surhoff(he was an elite prospect, but the rankings were so poor back then, I don't actually know how good he was)? 

    For TWO months of Hader? Eric Brown Jr for Hader? Sure. Hader IS extremely valuable, but there is this myth that this Brewers team is in a situation like the Bucks. That we've got to go all in now and screw the future...

    That just doesn't make sense. It does for the Bucks to be clear, but the Brewers are building EXACTLY how you'd want them to! I've watched for years jealous of how the Dodgers, Rays, the Cards or whoever, they just KEPT churning out prospects and then, particularly in the case of the Cards, they took these marginal pitchers and they thrived for them.

     

    Corbin Burnes is outstanding...as is Woodruff. But Baseball is so much bigger than 2 players(even two catchers). Look at the Braves? THAT is how you build a winner. You bring up those elite young prospects and....when they're willing, you lock them up long term. You don't throw away nearly 14 years of team control for 2 months of it. 

    And by the way, we really should start using 7 years of team control rather than 6. You're getting nearly 7 years. I don't care if David Green or JM Gold didn't hit, that's not a good reason to move your best young prospects(that's a carryover from another thread, not directed at the OP). 

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