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    Robert Gasser and the Brewers' 2024 Rotation Plans


    Matthew Trueblood

    After they struck a one-year deal with Wade Miley this week, the Brewers have a theoretically full starting rotation for 2024. Where does that leave the lefthander who led all Triple-A hurlers in strikeouts in 2023?

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    The key piece in the infamous 2022 Josh Hader trade, Robert Gasser has now fired 181 innings for Brewers affiliates over the last season and a half. He's made 30 starts as a member of the Nashville Sounds, with solid numbers. Yet, he hasn't cracked the big-league roster. The Brewers don't have to add him to their 40-man roster to shield him from the Rule 5 Draft until next November, but realistically, it's time for Gasser to either prove himself ready and able to start in the big leagues or be reassigned. He has nothing left to prove against Triple-A hitters.

    The indicators are strong for him. He's athletic, competitive, and blessed with a nasty slider. There's some chance that his long-term role is in the bullpen, for a few reasons:

    1. He's a low-arm-slot lefty, which often leads to being pretty hittable against right-handed batters.
    2. He's only six feet tall, and fairly thin, with little physical projection left. Rare are the lefty starters built like Gasser, but watch his delivery and his body and you're likely to be reminded of a favorite effective southpaw from somewhere in your baseball memory bank.
    3. Even at 24 years old, he only averaged 92 miles per hour this year. As he moves into his middle and late 20s, he's likely to lose another tick, and quickly, that starts to threaten his ability to stick in the rotation. Soft-tossers have to be exceptionally fine to survive as starters at 90 miles per hour, which is where Gasser is heading.

    In the short term, though, he should be able to stick in the rotation, and maybe even excel there. That low slot cuts both ways. Sure, it lets right-handed hitters get an early look at the ball, but it can still be somewhat deceptive--especially if Gasser can locate his fastball in the upper half of the strike zone from there. His track record on that score has been mixed, but when he finds that command, he racks up strikeouts and looks nigh unhittable.

    Moreover, Gasser pairs the fastball with both a sweeping slider and a shorter, harder cutter, and those pitches can work especially nicely off the heater because of the arm slot he uses. If he can develop more confidence in the changeup that is (more or less) the only pitch going the other way, it could really round out his credentials for the starting rotation.

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    Gasser's arsenal went through an interesting transformational journey in 2023. He started the year as the same fastball-forward pitcher he had been throughout his brief time in the Padres system, but in the middle of the season, he tried switching up and becoming more of a cutter-and-sinker guy. That works for some pitchers whose four-seamers lack rising action, and Gasser tried to accentuate that style by lowering his release point even farther. However, late in the campaign, he abandoned the experiment and went back to his four-seamer as a primary fastball. Notably, against fellow lefties, that didn't mean making the four-seamer his top overall pitch, as he went very slider-heavy. 

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    It seems like, given his slot, there should eventually be some utility for Gasser in the sinker. He hasn't found that yet, though, as command of the offering eludes him. Because of that, and because the four-seamer flattens out and gets hittable if he doesn't tease the top of the zone with it, he walked or plunked 65 of the 592 batters he faced in 2023. Ideally, of course, he will issue many fewer free passes than that as a member of the big-league roster. To achieve that, particularly in the rotation, he needs to refine his command of either the four-seamer or the sinker.

    Still, Gasser will live or die with the main three pitches in his arsenal: the four-seamer, the cutter, and the slider. He even reduced his usage of the changeup late in 2023 against righties.

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    There's something beautiful and exhilarating about watching a lefty starter fool and then overpower right-handed batters without even leaning on a changeup. Gasser sequenced well at Nashville last year, setting a righty up with the backfoot slider and then punching them out with the high fastball almost as often as he did things in the opposite order. He doesn't always get the cutter in on them as well as he needs to, but when he does, the pitch is great at inducing weak contact.

    Corbin Burnes, Freddy Peralta, Wade Miley, Adrian Houser, and Colin Rea are penciled in ahead of Gasser for the rotation. The team could always go to a six-man rotation, and even if they don't, they might trade Burnes and open a spot, anyway. That doesn't mean that Gasser is guaranteed starts, but he has shown himself ready for a real audition. If he can tighten his command on a couple of offerings, he could take a huge leap, but even without one, he's a credible back-end starter. Having him purely as depth, for the moment, is a luxury, and the Brewers are in great shape even if he ends up breaking camp as their fifth starter.

    What's your read on Gasser? Is he an acceptable fourth or fifth starter for a team aspiring to defend an NL Central title? Leave a comment and spark conversation.

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    54 minutes ago, CheezWizHed said:

    Following the Burnes/Woodruff path would make sense.  Start him in the BP, let him succeed and then work him into the starting lineup.  But let him fail at the starting role before saying he is BP only. 

    That sounds very logical to me. Now let see what management thinks.

    2 hours ago, CheezWizHed said:

    Following the Burnes/Woodruff path would make sense.  Start him in the BP, let him succeed and then work him into the starting lineup.  But let him fail at the starting role before saying he is BP only. 

    Conceptually, I love the bullpen apprenticeship for starters. My worry with Gasser, as opposed to a Woodruff or Burnes, is that being a lefty and with that low slot, the temptation to turn him into a short reliever and then never get him back as a starter would rise REALLY fast. Maybe that's not so bad. If he's a monster in short bursts, 92 becomes 95, ok. But I like him as a starter and I worry that putting him in the pen might mean we never get to even see whether that would work, y'know?

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    3 minutes ago, Matthew Trueblood said:

    Conceptually, I love the bullpen apprenticeship for starters. My worry with Gasser, as opposed to a Woodruff or Burnes, is that being a lefty and with that low slot, the temptation to turn him into a short reliever and then never get him back as a starter would rise REALLY fast. Maybe that's not so bad. If he's a monster in short bursts, 92 becomes 95, ok. But I like him as a starter and I worry that putting him in the pen might mean we never get to even see whether that would work, y'know?

    I'know... but it was pretty obvious that Burnes and Woody were there to get their intro the MLB that way.  They were used differently than other BP arms.  It would have to be an intentional thing by management.  If he suddenly is being used like Hoby Milner, I'd be concerned.

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    18 hours ago, CheezWizHed said:

    Following the Burnes/Woodruff path would make sense.  Start him in the BP, let him succeed and then work him into the starting lineup.  But let him fail at the starting role before saying he is BP only. 

    I'd say Gasser is more stretched out and has been developed more steadily as a starting pitcher for the Brewers to go that same route.

    Woody and Burnes were brought up out of necessity, and they were overpowering RHed pitchers on a team that was making a run that ended in a game 7 loss to the Dodgers in the NLCS.

    Gasser has thrown over 135 the last two years and has been brought along a little slower.

    RHed pitchers who can throw in the upper 90s on a team that needs innings, but doesn't want to push their starters made Burnes/Woodruff make more sense in that role.

    I think you could start Gasser out in the rotation and maybe piggy back him with Ashby(it'd work better if they weren't both lefties).

    Side note, encouraging what Arnold had to say about Ashby being in their plans for the rotation next year. He and Misiorowski are the two guys who I think have the stuff to be dominant starters in '24/'25 respectively. 

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    4 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

    I'd say Gasser is more stretched out and has been developed more steadily as a starting pitcher for the Brewers to go that same route.

    Woody and Burnes were brought up out of necessity, and they were overpowering RHed pitchers on a team that was making a run that ended in a game 7 loss to the Dodgers in the NLCS.

    Gasser has thrown over 135 the last two years and has been brought along a little slower.

    RHed pitchers who can throw in the upper 90s on a team that needs innings, but doesn't want to push their starters made Burnes/Woodruff make more sense in that role.

    I think you could start Gasser out in the rotation and maybe piggy back him with Ashby(it'd work better if they weren't both lefties).

    Side note, encouraging what Arnold had to say about Ashby being in their plans for the rotation next year. He and Misiorowski are the two guys who I think have the stuff to be dominant starters in '24/'25 respectively. 

    I guess I don't see much difference between how they've been developed.  All three were almost exclusively starting pitchers until Woody and Burnes were called up.  There was a lot of consternation about them being moved to the pen, but that helped them get acclimated to MLB pitchers before stepping into a starting spot.  Not sure if the same will be necessary with Gasser next year as our expectations might be lower... but still a good way to get a player's feet wet at the MLB level.

    Here are the Woody, Burnes, and Gasser MiLB innings ( or MiLB/MLB when they had split years).  The highligted year is their draft year.  Gasser is pretty much on schedule (while being drafted a year older) to do the same path:

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    This article upsets me because it reaffirms that the Hader trade was purely a salary dump. Gasser is the only player part of that trade I believe and it sounds like the Brewers are just hoping he becomes something this year or they will probably lose him to rule 5 next year. Now you see it all over again with Burnes, he is a Boris client and will definitely go into free agency, so why keep him around for a year and get nothing for him but a draft pick? I am very skeptical of this front office.

    42 minutes ago, rolafaive said:

    This article upsets me because it reaffirms that the Hader trade was purely a salary dump. Gasser is the only player part of that trade I believe and it sounds like the Brewers are just hoping he becomes something this year or they will probably lose him to rule 5 next year. Now you see it all over again with Burnes, he is a Boris client and will definitely go into free agency, so why keep him around for a year and get nothing for him but a draft pick? I am very skeptical of this front office.

    The Hader trade also brought back Esteury Ruiz, who was traded for William Contreras and Joel Payamps.

    We also took on the salary of Rogers, Norris and Rosenthal at that same deadline so its not like they even saved a ton of money trading Hader in the first place.

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    The timing of the Hader trade was bad, the long term return was great.

    If Burnes is traded before the season I find it likely Gasser would be thrust into a starting role with a strong spring training show.  If the right return can be had best to move Burnes now.  If not, the team will monitor the season and continue talks.

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    7 hours ago, rolafaive said:

    This article upsets me because it reaffirms that the Hader trade was purely a salary dump. Gasser is the only player part of that trade I believe and it sounds like the Brewers are just hoping he becomes something this year or they will probably lose him to rule 5 next year. Now you see it all over again with Burnes, he is a Boris client and will definitely go into free agency, so why keep him around for a year and get nothing for him but a draft pick? I am very skeptical of this front office.

    Yeah, but it DIDN'T dump any salary, and it led to Contreras, Payamps and Yeager. 

    And no, they're not going to lose Gasser to the Rule 5 draft next year. He was on top 100 lists this year! LOL...what makes you think they wouldn't add him to the 40-man by the end of NEXT year? He's likely to be on the 40 man this season and play a significant role.

     

    Finally, you're upset about not trading Burnes. It's Dec 7th. Ohtani hasn't signed. Would you feel better if they'd have just traded Burnes for the first offer on the table?

    I'd definitely prefer they trade Burnes as well. I wouldn't be happy with a Soto type package in return. So they've got until the next deadline to trade him. And I'm also going to struggle to get angry if they decide to add to this team and keep him for another year and then get another 1st rd pick and nearly 3M added to their bonus pool. 

     

     



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