Or Summer Shandy (Shady?), or Berry Weiss, or Sunset Wheat... Seriously, Leinie's Original is classic, Honey Weiss is good, the Red is nice, the Creamy Dark is a hidden gem (near perfect beer, IMO, but seemingly no one drinks it), & the Oktoberfest is solid but as far as these 'new' creations have gone, ick, ick, and ick. Berry Weiss tastes like a wine cooler Sunset Wheat tastes like blueberrie syrup in beer Summer Shandy tastes like beer mixed with Mike's Hard Lemonade EDIT: Back on topic, I'm very impressed overall as I read that linked Mets forum. Glad to see there are other fanbases out there who take as much care as we do to stay informed!