Multiple folks are saying this. The Brewers have to be one of the better teams at NOT hiring retreads. The Macha hire doesn't make me gun-shy of guys with MLB managerial experience. Terry Francona's won a couple World Series in Boston after winning nothing in Philly. Charlie Manuel won in Philly after not winning in Cleveland. Let's see... Ken Macha - "retread" Ned Yost - rookie mgr Jerry Royster - rookie mgr Davey Lopes - rookie mgr Phil Garner - rookie mgr Tom Trebelhorn - rookie mgr George Bamberger, 2nd time - "retread" ... the last time before Macha the Brewers hired a re-tread was for the '85 season, and his previous experience was managing the Brewers. Only Trebelhorn had a winning record, and only Garner & Yost also had above .500 seasons. Bamberger turned the franchise around, Kuenn won a pennant, Buck Rodgers was a winner, Garner had a winning season, Treb had a winning record, Dave Bristol was a retread. That is why I was a Harry Dalton fan, outside of Lach, all were first timers and pretty successful. If we cannot pay a Showalter or a Torre, go with a new guy. Davey Lopes was a politically correct hire, Royster a fill in--Crandall a familiar face, Alex Grammas? Now---he gives us wonder on why not to hire a new guy as a manager. Point taken. The Brewers also don't hire from within. Since I don't consider guys like Lefebvre (remember him?) and Royster to be former Brewer managers due to their interim status, you have to go back nearly 25 years to Trebelhorn to find the last internal hire. I'm pretty sure he wasn't expected to get the full time gig either, until the team finished like 7-2 under his watch. As far as I know, Trebelhorn, Kuenn, Rodgers and Crandall were the only managers in franchise history who were internal hires, and at least 3 of them started on an interim basis.