>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a lot of your evaluations seemed to say "incredibly" or "on fire" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Um, actually only two. I said Estrella was pitching incredibly well and Leskanic is on fire. Do you care to dispute those observations? I feel pretty confident making those assessments. You listed 5 Dodgers' pitchers... the Brewers have 7/8 relievers. Moreover, the Dodgers get consistently-strong starting pitching and thus throw less innings. It's not really a fair comparison. That said, I'll take Estrella, Leskanic, De Los Santos, and DeJean before Shuey, Quantrill, Mota, and Martin. It's not exactly fair to compare any of the Brewers' pitchers to Gagne. And the Vizcaino of last year is the best of the non-Gagne bunch. Throw in Kolb, who has pitched well, Foster, who has done the same, and Kieschnick, who can eat up innings and hit better than any other pitcher in the league, and you've got yourself a solid bullpen. On a team without the money to splurge on anything other than necessities, the bullpen should be the last of our concerns. Starting pitching, yes. Hitting, yes. But relievers? Not really. ~Bill