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Bush's trade value is highest if he remains in the rotation and continues his clever lucky streak of stranding runners, and keeping a reasonable ERA. So, if Davis MUST start, then I agree with Flood Pants. Put Narveson in the pen for a few weeks while a deadline deal for Bush or Davis can get done. By the end of the month either one or both of them will be gone, or Davis will be so terrible Narveson will be put back in the rotation.
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You mean a very small sample of recent statistics suggest it. I mean he is having the worst healthy season of his career but it still putrid small sample of 16 starts and to be honest the really bad part has only been 9 starts now, since 5/14 in Phi and 3 of those starts aren't bad at all. Looking at such a small chunk of a pitchers stats is going to come to all kinds of bad data.I understand that argument, but many who are making it are also using the small sample of 2010 Narveson, Parra, and Bush to make arguments against any of them. For example, it's pretty much consensus on this board that Bush is terrible despite his reasonable ERA because his K rate and BB rates are bad. Yet his K:BB is identical to Wolf's. So it's OK to cite small sample size with Wolf, but not Bush?
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Yeah, Macha's not my favorite manager, but I can't see firing him for just another retread guy. Unlike many on this board I don't think he's the big problem with this team.
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If it's for just one start, then Bush might get bumped again. It will be Parra or Narveson if it's planned for the forseeable future. If that's the case, then I'd have to go for putting Narveson in the pen. It's not the right decision, but it's better than bumping Parra back. Narveson was great against Seattle, one of the worst offensive teams in baseball, but overall as a starter, he hasn't been all that good. He's a 5th starter at best so far, so you're not really losing anything moving him to the pen.
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June's record is mostly due to a good homestand. So take the last few games and you can be really positive: 7-3 last 10, 9-5 last 14. Looking any further back is depressing. This weekend could be really depressing.
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Apparently so, since Melvin is paying him $5.25 million to produce a 4.0-4.25 ERA. Also, Trevor Hoffman must close every game because Melvin is paying him $8 million with the estimate that is the value of his SKILL.
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Davis has made it out of the 6th inning only once this year. His rehabs were about 4 innings each. He's not stretched out. Do we really want to go back to a starter who can't get out out of the 5th inning? Didn't that nearly destroy the bullpen this Spring? He doesn't deserve to start. He should have to earn his way back.
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I agree Yo has had many 6 inning appearances this year that were probably more stressful than last week's complete game. In 2009 Yo had only one appearance where he threw more than 120 pitches and just 6 starts where he threw 115-118 pitches. He certainly didn't need to make his last two starts in 2009, but 30 starts and 185 ip doesn't seem overly abusive to me. I guess we'll see today whether the complete game had any effect. On the other hand, as has been posted repeatedly by others in the last couple weeks, one game's result is tied heavily to luck, so however he does tonight, maybe won't mean a thing.
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Witrado's assertion that it won't be Wolf who's kicked out of the rotation continues Suppan Philosophy that contract decides who plays, not talent.
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September 19, 1986, Joe Cowley of the White Sox pitched a no hitter against the Angels. He had 8Ks, 7 BBs, and 1 ER. I remember reading quotes from Angels batters after the game they didn't get any hits because he was nowhere near the plate most of the time. His opponent, Kirk McCaskill, a far better pitcher, went 7-1/3innings K'ed 6, walked 1, and allowed 4 ER.
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Minus the ability to hit 40 home runs. He has hit 20 homers in 583 career AB's, so with regular batting schedule, he might develop 30 homer power for a couple seasons.
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Gallardo has started 5 games this year in which he was lifted after the 6th and the bullpen blew any chance of winning. 4 of those games he got a no decision, sso the team was either leading or tied when he left the game. The manager is trying to claw his team back into this thing, so I don't blame him for making sure they'd win this one. I agree they need to watch his pitch counts, but they also need to win games over these couple of weeks to see if there anything to salvage from the season. If they are still under .500 and 8 games behind the wild card in a month, then resting Yo's arm takes priority.
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Here's my projected lineup: Weeks-2B Hart-RF Braun-LF Dunn-1B McGehee-3B Lucroy/Kottaras-C Gomez-CF Escobar-SS Gamel will be forced to earn his way onto the team, either at 1B, 3B, or RF. Cain, Shaefer, and Lawrie are assigned to AAA to start the year.
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I kind of agree with him. Tentatively. Now until the All Star break is crucial. I'm not sure that talent obtained by trading Hoffman, Bush, Edmonds, Counsell, and others like them is really going to make a big difference next year or in the more distant future. You might get better long term talent for Bush through draft compensation. I doubt many GMs are ready to throw top prospects for Corey Hart in the next month. Trading Prince is probably inevitable, but I agree with Doug on this, you get more for position players in offseason trades. There's a bit of self delusion here, thinking that trading the spare parts on the 25 man roster is going to net great long term gains. Contending teams don't dump top prospects at the break for average veteran talent anymore.
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Since Fielder is all but gone, I vote for extending Weeks and letting Hart play out to free agency.
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That's the bottom line. Lots of research shows injuries happen when a pitcher is fatigued. Of course pitch counts are a big factor in fatigue, but other scenarios figure in too, like the weather, length of the game, whether the pitcher is struggling with command. This game was relatively short, innings went smooth and didn't drag on, Yo was throwing free and easy. He was the best pitcher available to go out in the 9th inning. I doubt this game has any effect on his next couple outings. I don't think the fact he threw 10 more pitches than he should have yesterday, given how dominating he was, will have any effect on his performance in September.
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"If we're still out of it in July... " Clearly we are back in it, baby!
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Parra Replaces Bush in Rotation Sunday; Bush "not pleased"
joepepsi replied to Funketown's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
When I realized Manny was starting last night, my first thought was, good, now they have a chance to take the series. That's quite a change in attitude! Good game Manny. -
La Crosse Day at the ballpark. The beer vendors will be busy.
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I don't know what to think about Narveson. He's certainly no worse than Looper, so as a 5th starter he's all right. Problem is, the team has too many 4th/5th starters. But Narveson's K rate is too good to just give up on him. On the other hand, with those splits and that K rate maybe he's best suited as the LOOGY of the future. Braddock throws too hard and has too much talent to be the guy who just gets out lefties.
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I did not want to see Hoffman in the game last night. I'm glad Macha went for the win and played it like the 7th game of the WS. In any 3 game series there always seems to be that one game that can go either way. That game was last night in this series. Winning those games is the difference between losing 90 games or winning 90 games a year.
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They started the season with the wrong rotation and the wrong pitching staff. It took until mid-late May for them to admit their mistakes and choose talent over Veteran Gamer Grittiness. Probably cost them the season, but they are at least playing better.
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But often what you are getting more of is potential worth, not actual worth. So if you want to win, at some point you need to stick with a player. Otherwise you are constantly rebuilding; fielding teams that are "almost" good, but never "actually" good.
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So you are arguing the team owner determines his market size. The Steinbrenner family could cut the Yankee payroll to $15 million, watch attendance go to nothing, then claim they are a small market team. Incompetence, greed, and/or poor marketing should not be the criteria that sets market size. The Twins have pretended to be a small market for years because their owner was cheap. Peter Angelos used to spend a fortune on the Orioles' payroll and they were considered a medium to large market. Then he slashed payroll, attendance went down, and now he claims they are a small market. So MLB pays his team an annual stipend and guarantees its value as compensation for putting another team in his "small" market team's area. Letting each owner determine his team's market size is illogical and self fulfilling. It's also bad for baseball, as the Orioles' example illustrates. Tampa and Miami may be bad baseball markets, but they are not small markets. It's a failure of the team if it can't do a better job of tapping into that large population.
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Interesting story. But it's just weird that people still don't understand they are responsible for what they post on the web.