First let me start out saying that I am a proud owner of a 2nd gen 8 gig zune. No complaints at all. The zune pad is nice -- it works by touch or by pressing on the edge of the pad up down left or right based upon where you want to go. Pressing the center does the exact same thing as ipod click wheel. Which for some reason I am not a fan of the ipod click wheel. I do not like to make circles to select songs. But I am a minority here which I am ok with. The ipod is a nice mp3 player, but I am not going to jump on that bandwagon. I don't want this thread to turn into an ipod praising thread -- there are enough of them here already I want to have a zune thread because I have yet to see one. Also, the operation of the two mp3 players is also not the only reason why I am starting this thread either -- it is the social feature that the zune possesses (didn't realize there were 5 s). It is a handy feature that allows songs and pictures to be directly transferred between zunes without the use of wifi or any other internet connection. Songs can get played three times before they are automatically deleted by the zune and pictures can be transfered from the zune to the computer. Also, if a computer has a wireless connection (mine does not), it can sync music wirelessly. The problem with this social feature is the only other person I know with a zune is my brother -- this makes it hard to transfer files. I am a student at UW and in my lectures I have looked many times to see if there were any other zunes in the room. There hasn't been any yet to this day. Does anyone here have one?