Except a hitter not being able to make split second decisions well on pitches being thrown at different spots, speeds, curves, etc., isn't quite the same as a player having time before a play even begins to know that he doesn't need to get to 3rd base. It would be more like a hitter with a 3-0 count, with the bases loaded, and 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th of a tied game swinging at the next pitch. You just don't do it, unless you're really REALLY sure you're going to get a hit. Besides Villar getting chucked at 3rd, another low moment, decision wise this year.... The day is July 3. The Brewers are down 9-4 in the ninth against Cards. Braun, Luc single. Carter is hit by pitch. On a 3-0 count, down 5 mind you,bases loaded, Hill is swinging 3-0 and fouls it back....... Down 5. A double play would kill the rally. A homer or walk are about the same thing here. Anyways, Hill does walk eventually. Kirk doubles and is stranded to lose 9-8. Although easy to gloss over because Hill walked, I couldn't believe that he swung. Like usual, I didn't hear from any a Brewer media if CC had take sign up or if Hill missed sign or if CC expected him not to swin, etc. Are you upset with Villar or with the coaching staff? The general rule of thumb is to take 3-0, but I have heard vets get a green light if it's the exact pitch they are looking for.