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I was hoping to be able to watch Haniger a little longer in Appleton...

I'm no expert on Scooter either. Just seems odd that so many here have already labeled the guy as a failure, when in all reality, we just don't know... I saw him play about 25 games, live and in person in 2010 as a member of the Timber Rattlers. His glove was ok, made spectacular plays sometimes, made mistakes other times. Maybe wasn't very instinctive, but with a couple more years of experience, I'm sure that has improved. Actually, I have read that his defense has improved quite a bit, but I am not witness to that. I highly doubt he is a worse fielder than Weeks, but again, that is opinion based on how crappy Weeks has been all season in the field. He can hit though, that I am sure of. When he was in Appleton, the only knock I ever picked up on was his lack of walks. I haven't looked at his stats this year, so I don't know if that has improved or not. For a guy his size, he has some pop in his bat. He was far from just a singles hitter in Appleton. Can he hit better than .180 in the bigs? I'd take a guess and say yes, he can. I'm no expert, but I'm not going to condemn the kid to a complete and total loser until he has had a chance.

We sure have a lot of Scooter experts in this thread. It's almost like you guys have watched hours and hours of tape and are now officially his own personal scouts. I'd like to believe that you guys know what you are talking about, but since you are guys typing on a message board, I don't believe that is true. Like a few others, I'm sick of the Rickie Weeks show, time to see what Scooter brings to the table, and as sure as some of you are that he will fail, I'm just as sure he will provide more defense and offense than Rickie. Time for a change!

That's it for me...Might as well do some yardwork and forget today's game ever happened. Being owned by the Cards and Reds is depressing. PS The fact that Burgos is still in this game is absolutely disgusting.

It is getting to the point of where Rickie HAS to sit for a couple of games in a row. Someone needs to step in and inform our manager just how bad Weeks has been this year. There is no chance, NONE, that Gennett can't do better than Weeks, offensively or defensively. It is time to do what is right for the team and stop worrying about egos or stubbornness. I am also starting to enjoy the games that Lucroy is on the bench and Maldy is in the line-up... What a season of ups and downs this has been.

That seems to be a problem with management if you ask me. Maybe it's time the manager makes that decision, not the player.

...and of course, after that defensive gem by Phillips, he comes right back with the HR. If we can't compete with the Cards and Reds, we just don't have any real hope this season.

but he only throws a fastball, and is lucky.

I am starting to get on board with trading Gallardo if we got the right offer.

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During the course of a full season, it is a big deal between going 6 or 7 innings. Taxing the bullpen is almost never a good idea, especially with a bullpen like ours. I'm not saying he has t go 7 innings every time out, but in the last 3 seasons, how many times has he gone 7+ innings? It would be nice to see a few 7 inning games, and throw in a few 8 inning games for good measure. We just rarely see that out of Gallardo, and a true ace needs to be able to last deeper into games more than 3 or 4 times per season.

That is exactly what I was going to say. Also, maybe you could get lucky and find a used one someplace? Craigslist perhaps. First thing I'd do is contact the sellers and see if they would be willing to help you out. Heck, you could even give them $50 and still come out ahead.

Not that I don't agree with you now, but to properly judge those players, we'll need a couple more years. Right now, it looks like we made out the best.

That might be the one and only bobble that my collection will never have...

I can only assume you understand how absolutely pathetic this makes you look to attack a minor spelling error and ignore the rest of my statement? Weeks has never displayed any type of personality, this is not new. It wasn't an attack, and I didn't ignore your statement. As usual, you are choosing to see what you want. No biggie, I'm done responding to you. The board doesn't need the drama.

You can't make a statement like that as fact. A lot of people on this site have opinions different than yours, you need to realize that every once in a while. Actually I can make it like it is fact because it is. They might take on a miniscule portion of their personality just like any two people who spend time together but to say that one manager is going to suppress all other personalities is not going to happen. To try to blame these players personalities on Roenicke is nothing short of absurd. These guys are acting exactly the way they always have, we just lost some of the bigger personalities in the clubhouse. Gomez is still looking like he is hopped up on something, Weeks has always been the quite guy, Braun is acting exactly like normal only without Fielders antics, Aramis has always been a quite guy, Lucroy has always come off as nothing but a complete profession etc. Nothing has changed. Actually, just because you say it is, doesn't make it a fact. I am not placing ALL the blame on anyone for the lack of personality on this team, but to think that it can't have anything to do with who manages the team is certainly debatable. I don't think it is necessary to have a team full of characters, I was merely commenting on the post that mentioned the manager having to do with the team attitude. I'm "quite" sure that when you used the word "quite" in the above post, you meant to say quiet, correct?

Understood. I will refrain from my manager disdain in this thread, and others as well.

Yup, you got me, but my statement isn't meant to be condescending to anyone like the other poster is a lot of the time.

You can't make a statement like that as fact. A lot of people on this site have opinions different than yours, you need to realize that every once in a while.

The manager, and his antics have to play into a lot of discussions, it is just the way it is. The manager is a large part of the team, I don't see how it can be avoided. If someone posted in this thread that the manager is what gets them fired up, and he is like a god, would that be ok? Or, are you just disgusted with the negative feelings that managers can cause with the fans?

A team does take on the personality of its manager, that is 100% true. When your manager has no personality, and seems like a guy going through the motions, then the team will mimic that. I'd love to see some fire from the guy in charge, but we have learned that isn't going to happen. Opponents pitchers throwing at our guys? No retaliation is the answer. Umps doing a horrible job, he might walk out and nod his head to the ump a few times, but that is the most we can expect. Say stupid mundane things in the post game interviews, check. The list goes on and on. I don't like the guy or anything about him. That being said, I am kind of opposite of you. I think there is a lot to be excited about for this team. How can watching a SS like Segura not fire you up? We have had such a black hole at that position for so long, and along comes this kid, who a lot of people prematurely (even on this very board) said wouldn't stick at the position. He has proven them all wrong. The guy can play SS at a high level, and probably better than anyone who we have had man that position for a decade or more. Segura alone gets me fired up for games. I love having a young guy like that to root for!! Gomez fires me up!!! I love his style, his playful attitude toward the game, and all that he brings to the table. When he is firing on all cylinders, great things happen. Sure, he does a lot of boneheaded things now and again, I doubt that will ever change, but the guy goes all out, every play, and I respect that a lot. Even when he swings so hard he knocks himself to the ground, I just chuckle. Now, if he was hitting .150 and striking out every other at bat, it would be a different story, but for now, he has slowly become one of my 2 favorite players on this team. (Segura being the other one) Watching the guy wearing Betancourt's uniform this year has been a blast!!!! I was a Yuni basher, and will probably be again someday soon, but what he has done the first month of the season is absolutely freaking amazing. If his play doesn't get you fired up, I don't know what will. The board whipping boy has literally won games for us to this point. Weeks has been a spirit crusher, and the way our so-called manager handles him is horrible. I can only think he will come around at some point. He has to. Right? Ramirez is back, that has to account for some good feelings too. Once he is full strength, at least we have our clean-up hitter established. If he comes close to what he did last year, that is exciting in itself. Aoki is a joy to watch, and exciting in his own little ways. Glad we took the chance on him. We have a bonafied lead-off hitter that allows us to hit guys like Hart and Weeks down in the order where their bats can be utilized for the value they bring. (Well, assuming Weeks pulls his head from his buttocks that is) Ryan Braun is Ryan Braun. I have to admit, he has been tainted a bit in my mind due to the PED scandal, but talk about an exciting player!!!!!! He is one of the top 5 offensive powers in the league, how can that not get you fired up? Once Hart gets back, our line-up is going to be a monster! THAT is exciting! I'm excited to see Peralta pitch every outing he takes the hill. If he fullfills his potential, I think we have a real gem on our hands. I'm tired of Gallardo, and the controversy he brought the team with his DUI didn't help his cause. High pitch counts and can't go deep into games just makes for an unexciting player to me. I don't like watching him pitch, but hopefully that all changes. I think there are several players on this team that get me pumped for games. There may not be the personality that we once had when Plush was doing his thing and Prince was here, but I enjoy this team a lot! My biggest complaint is management, but that is no secret, so I won't harp on him anymore in this post as it will just bring me and everyone else down...

I'd be semi-interested in a polish. If anyone gets an extra polish and wants to trade it for bobbles, let me know.

When Hart gets back, I want Gonzalez gone. Useless is an understatement.

Weeks down to 7... Progress.

I figured that instead of locking the thread, and stopping the conversation, that maybe a mod could just edit the alleged offensive stuff out, and issue warnings to the guilty parties. I just hate seeing a complete thread locked down because someone gets offended, with merit or not. Well, at least we know why it was shut down, agree or not with the reasoning involved.