I know someone who went with a group of 5 to the Aoki game, and pulled 4 out of 5 retros... A couple years ago, I went to the McGehee game, and the lady sitting directly behind me had 4 tickets, and 4 retro McGehees. I had 4 people with me, and none of us drew a retro. She would not trade, and she would not sell. She was going straight to ebay. Which was stupid, since she would pay the ebay fees and by the time she was done, could have sold me one and avoided the fees and shipping. She had ebay on her mind, so I stopped the conversation once I saw she was going to hold her ground.