why are we counting Narveson out? he had rotator-cuff surgery, which from my understanding, isnt career ending at all. he was a pretty effective #4/5 guy last season, I dont see why he wouldnt factor in to the team moving forward, especially with 2 more years of control. A rotation of Greinke/Gallardo/Narveson/Fiers/Estrada would be decent, as thats what we've had here for the last month as it is. He had surgery on his rotator cuff AND his labrum, which often times is not a very successful surgery. Not to mention, this is his second surgery on that shoulder in addition to Tommy John surgery on his elbow. I would say you'd be hard pressed to "count on" Narveson for next year. If you do get something productive, it should probably be considered gravy. As far as Greinke goes, if that offer isn't enough to keep him somewhere that he is obviously comfortable and pitches well, I see ya later. I'm a huge Greinke fan, but if all this is true I will sour towards him somewhat. I get so sick of the greed (if that is the case.)