I'm very susupcious about how towards the end of his career he started to "fill out a uniform", a la Sammy Sosa. (And notice how much less "ripped" Sosa is now compared to pre-steriod testing years... and how much his production has dropped off.) Compare Raines' physique to that of former teammate Andre Dawson. I just have a hard time believing that Raines wasn't on any "supplements", and if so, how much that helped his career. Steroids don't just make you stronger - look at Ben Johnson and all those sprinters. On another note, I do remember when Raines insisted on being called "Rock". I know for sure that it was on his baseball cards for at least a year, and seem to recall him all but officially changing his first name to "Rock". I'm suspicious about his physique. I'm suspicious that his numbers may have been "helped" and his career extended in an "unnatural" way. Looking at his numbers, I don't see any "magical numbers" or "HOF benchmarks" achieved. (If we only use OBP, then do we have to vote for guys like John Olerud?) I see him as falling into the "Hall of the Very, Very Good". If I were voting, I'd vote "no" for at least the first five years, but may reconsider in the future.