Fear The Chorizo

I thought those reasons (4 timeouts with the 2 minute warning) were exactly why going for it on 4th and goal made tons of sense. Don't make it and TB takes the field inside their own 10 instead of at the 25-35 after the kickoff (or even further after an unsuccessful onside kick), and you have enough timeouts to get a stop and leave plenty of time to get the ball back even if TB gets a 1st down. Kicking the field goal in that spot gives them zero room for error defensively and automatically leaves them with a long field and no timeouts to still have to score a TD even if they force a 3 and out.

I guess I'd take King back on a 1/$3m deal to be the nickel corner King's best attributes (size/physicality) wouldn't be able to be used as any help to him playing the slot....no way would I want him playing nickel corner for the Packers. I'd be open to resigning to a small FA deal like you mentioned to remain at CB2 under a different defensive scheme that plays more cover 2/cover 3. But I won't sweat losing him in free agency if that's the case.

That throw was very, very high too....even if King didn't touch Johnson and he's running wide open I don't think he catches that ball.

I know there was a hold on that throw, but you can't start squeezing rocket balls in because you think there might be a flag, which I've seen people comment. The timing of that route is such that Rodgers makes the read and throw right as the hold is occurring - There's not time for Rodgers to see the penalty and then make the throw. If there's no hold (which was sustained) Lazard has separation from the DB and an accurate pass (which it was) gives him a chance to split safety help and take it to the house or at minimum set them up on the edge of FG range with plenty of time and timeouts to score a TD. Rodgers got after the officials after that play because he knew the only way that's a pick is if there's a blatant penalty that didn't get called. And even with the hold, the DB had to make an incredible play on the ball to make that pick.

Yeah Brady's picks were all on the edge of the red zone to inside the 10 - Rodgers' pick set them up at midfield, and Jones' fumble with the return set them up at 1st and goal. GB still had to go 80+ yards on those 4th quarter drives if they wanted another TD after those turnovers, but instead they were 3 and out. I guess if they wanted better field position on those TOs, their offense and special teams could have done a better job of flipping the field a time or two...then again Brady probably doesn't make those same throws from his own 25 yard line, too. Even on kickoffs after GB scored, their special teams consistently had Tampa Bay starting drives from their 35 or better because of poor coverage.

Are there other plays that still could have gone their way to still pull the game out? Uh yeah, I never said otherwise. But it was absolutely an enormous play that really opened up the game for Tampa at the time and put us in a hole we never got out of. Tony Dungy called it the worst defensive playcall he's ever seen. Ed Reed was flabbergasted. Our own HC was blunt in his assessment of the call. I cannot believe anyone is downplaying that call. For me it's combination of the last 5 minutes of half #1 and the first drive of half #2 that turned a very winnable game into a desperation attempt to win. That's even with factoring in TB's quick start. For most of the 2nd half, Tampa was playing without their top 2 safeties - and their defense was on the field the whole damn game...hurts seeing those 2 empty possessions in the 4th quarter where a TD or even FG probably wins them the ballgame. That sequence went: Adams drops that 1st and goal pass that would have tied the game up at 14, instead they settle for a FG on a 15 play drive that takes up half the quarter. Driving under 2 minutes for a FG chance or potentially a TD, Rodgers throws a pick - not a bad throw, but the Bucs DB basically rode Lazard with a hand on his jersey enough to pull himself into position to make that play. Apparently the back judge 30 yards downfield must not have had as good a look on that play as he did on King's PI at the end of the game on a throw from Brady that I still contend wasn't catchable. On 3rd down from outside FG range, Brady throws a wounded quail down the sideline that should have been picked, but it got alligator armed. After TWO timeouts (1TB, 1 GB), Packers decide to play coverage with only 1 safety back on a play that either has to wind up in the end zone or 6 yards out of bounds - TB has multiple receivers streaking to the endzone to force the safety to make a decision and Arians/Brady picks their patsy(King) to have their speediest receiver run by for a TD. End of half #1 - what could have easily been a 21-14 GB lead with them getting the 2nd half kick turns into a 21-10 TB lead. Then 3 plays to Jones to open the 2nd half that result in a fumble and return inside the 10....1 play later another TB TD and it's 28-10. There were many other individual plays that GB didn't make through the course of the game that could have swung the balance or helped their cause - but this sequence is essentially a 25-point swing in the game with Tampa Bay basically having that 1 possession at the end of the 1st half.

and go for it on 4th and goal instead of kicking a field goal - do whatever you need to do to keep the game in the hands of your HOF QB as long as possible....

Nope...it's ballgame - there were 12 men on the field on that 1st down play

and then that call after how the entire game goes....and that pass is NOT catchable

Um....disagree with the FG try there in a big way. Even not scoring on 4th and goal, TB would be backed up at the 10 and GB still has all 3 timeouts

Rodgers scores there if he runs it

Rick Wagner basically yanked Barrett's arm off and got away with a hold there

Is it me or does the offense look tired?

How about a TD and 2 point conversion but leaving too much time on the clock for TB12?

Ugh...that dropped 2 point conversion

Brady is actually having a bad game - if he's on target a bit more TB has 40 hung up on the scoreboard by now

sack fumble here...

Just said this exact thing. Pretty easy to pop off the ball when you snap it at 1 or 0 75% of the time. Would be lovely to see them with some presnap motion and get out of the huddle with more than 10 on the playclock....get this defense playing without both starting safeties moving around a bit and out of position

refs have totally lost their flags today, too

would have loved to see a running play to start this drive

we're in the same presnap mode of the last few years...snapping when the playclock is at 1 all the time and defensive line just teeing off

That 1st down play action had Adams running across the field open deep...if that ball isn't tipped at the launch point it might have been a TD

Even on that high throw to Evans that led to the INT...Sullivan was covering him again - it's not hard knowing where the ball is going. At some point don't you put Tramon in the game in that spot?

meeting at the QB

thank you thank you...