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You'd honestly consider batting Gomez in the leadoff spot even though he yearly carries a sub-.300 OBP? topper09er was trying to draw a comparison to the Giants. If he were actually suggesting that the Brewers use that lineup, he'd have used the lineup thread. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

I think our biggest gaps between posts are: Late at night US timeDuring beautiful spring and summer daysDuring Packer games

Based on the photo that AJAY posted, I think that wOOgiE22's mockups more accurately depict the video screen itself and that the original rendering more accurately depicts the ads. AJAY pic http://images.yuku.com/image/jpeg/41c15d514458490e0779fd4fe6911bf57e893de.jpg Original rendering http://images.yuku.com/image/jpeg/a03351d55b2a463153094bd20eacfcad5595aca.jpg wOOgiE22 rendering http://images.yuku.com/image/jpeg/7a815f5a4d5e460058474d8f195aeeed0b00316.jpg

Here's a link to the report mentioned by ilovebeer: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/114215589.html It states that 2011 ties 2009 for the earliest date that the Brewers have reached one million tickets sold.

Here's a side-by-side comparison, using the picture that AJAY posted above. http://images.yuku.com/image/jpeg/83b1575c40594b0e4a91f07db6bd0e03ea39cd3.jpg

I don't have a really good eye for this stuff, and my Photoshop skills are lacking. But I borrowed a picture of the old scoreboard from Steve Garczynski's Twitter page and attempted to trace in the video portion of the new board. The red outline represents the video portion only. When I compare this to the pictures in this topic's lead, it seems a little large. But to me, the actual photos posted recently seem to make the scoreboard look a little larger than we see in the mockups. http://images.yuku.com/image/jpeg/b0a35d865390437c565b4fe40b4545bea697f49.jpg Am I close?

I see that this project currently ranks second.

Featured on the front page and stickied in Off Topic: Pepsi Refresh Project: Treyton Kilar Field of Dreams It's an excellent cause. If you prefer to vote via text message, directions are in the topic linked to above.

Teams like the Pirates and Royals scored better in the recent categories, even though they have been terrible since most of their fans can remember. Maybe the writer feels that losing in the post-season is more miserable than not making the post-season at all. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

It's normal for upload speed to be much lower than download speed. Things are built that way. But as you say, for a 17 Mb/s download speed, 0.3 for uploading seems quite low. Only one other Road Runner connection has been reported since this topic was revived yesterday, so there isn't much of a sample to eyeball. In that case, download and upload speeds were almost equal, which is unusual. But that looks to be a business account, which could have something to do with the upload/download speed ratio. I'd call Time Warner and see what they say.

I believe Iron Mountain is the speedtest.net server.

That's from two years ago. Newer equipment is likely to have Wireless N, which is faster. As long as your connection speed is slower than your wireless capability, your speed should be about the same whether you use a cable or WiFi. I've found very occasional "burps" due to wireless, but that's about it.

I figured I'd bring back this old topic because it might be interesting to see whose connections have improved over time. Here's my home connection: http://www.speedtest.net/result/1111386360.png 4.77 Mb/s is pretty typical, but this test hit 5.18 Mb/s for me once. One time recently, the result was about 3.8 Mb/s. This compares to 2.92 Mb/s in October 2008. Given that I have 5 Mb/s service, there's reason to be happy with the download results I've been getting. Tech support says that my upload speed should improve if I rearrange my equipment and add a router for my wired stuff (the TV and DirecTV receiver). I currently have 25 feet of phone cord between the wall and the DSL modem. I should have the DSL modem closer to the phone outlet and run an Ethernet cable to the (unpurchased) router, which would be located near the TV and DirecTV receiver. So you don't have to go back to the lead to find the link to test your connection, here it is again: http://www.speedtest.net/

Fingers was in Milwaukee five years and played four seasons, missing one due to injury. Don Sutton, whose number isn't retired, was a Brewer for two years and a month.

It's hard to tell from the odd angle of the new pics, but it looks like the video board is missing a section that would go to the left. It looks off center to me. Outside of that, I think it looks very much like the artist's renderings.

I ended up bypassing Cloninger because his ERA+ as a Milwaukee Brave was below average every year except for one, but he's still certainly worth discussing. It's too bad that the game below occurred as an Atlanta Brave. Had this occurred as a Milwaukee Brave, he'd be better remembered in Wisconsin. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif Atlanta Braves 17, San Francisco Giants 3 -- July 3, 1966 [+]Game Played on Sunday, July 3, 1966 (D) at Candlestick Park ATL N 7 1 0 5 1 0 0 1 2 - 17 20 1 SF N 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 - 3 7 3 [b]BATTING[/b] [b]Atlanta Braves[/b] [b]AB R H RBI BB SO PO A[/b] Alou 1b 3 0 0 0 1 0 3 1 de la Hoz 3b 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 Jones cf 6 1 3 0 0 2 2 0 Aaron rf 4 2 1 1 0 0 2 0 Geiger rf 2 1 1 1 0 1 2 0 Carty lf 4 3 3 1 1 0 1 0 Herrnstein lf 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Torre c 6 2 3 3 0 0 6 0 Bolling 2b 5 2 2 2 0 0 1 4 Woodward ss 6 2 4 0 0 1 2 4 Menke 3b,1b 3 2 0 0 2 0 6 1 [b]Cloninger p[/b] 5 2 3 [b] 9[/b] 0 0 1 0 [b]Totals[/b] 47 17 20 17 4 4 27 10 [b]FIELDING - [/b] [b]DP:[/b] 1. Woodward-Bolling-Alou. [b]E:[/b] Cloninger (7). [b]BATTING - [/b] [b]2B:[/b] Woodward 2 (11,off Priddy,off Sadecki); Jones (7,off Sadecki); Geiger (4,off Sadecki). [b]HR:[/b] Torre (19,1st inning off Gibbon 2 on 2 out); [b]Cloninger 2 (4,1st inning off Priddy 3 on 2 out,4th inning off Sadecki 3 on 2 out)[/b]; Carty (3,2nd inning off Priddy 0 on 2 out); Aaron (25,5th inning off Sadecki 0 on 0 out). [b]SF:[/b] Bolling (1,off Sadecki). [b]GDP:[/b] de la Hoz (1,off Sadecki). [b]Team LOB:[/b] 8. [b]San Francisco Giants[/b] [b]AB R H RBI BB SO PO A[/b] Alou rf 4 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 Haller c,1b 3 1 1 1 1 0 8 0 Mays cf 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 Landrum cf 2 0 0 0 0 1 2 0 McCovey 1b 1 0 0 0 0 1 2 0 Dietz c 3 0 0 0 0 1 4 0 Hart 3b 3 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 Virgil 3b 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 Gabrielson lf 4 0 1 1 0 0 2 0 Davenport ss 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 2 Mason 2b 3 0 0 0 0 0 2 3 Lanier 2b,ss 4 0 2 0 0 0 3 4 Gibbon p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Priddy p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Sadecki p 3 1 1 1 0 1 0 0 Peterson ph 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 [b]Totals[/b] 34 3 7 3 2 5 27 11 [b]FIELDING - [/b] [b]DP:[/b] 1. Virgil-Mason-Haller. [b]E:[/b] Hart (15), Gabrielson (1), Lanier (11). [b]BATTING - [/b] [b]HR:[/b] Sadecki (2,5th inning off Cloninger 0 on 0 out); Haller (16,8th inning off Cloninger 0 on 0 out). [b]GDP:[/b] Mays (7,off Cloninger). [b]Team LOB:[/b] 6. [b]PITCHING[/b] Atlanta Braves [b]IP H R ER BB SO HR BFP[/b] Cloninger W(9-7) 9 7 3 3 2 5 2 36 [b]WP:[/b] Cloninger (13). San Francisco Giants [b]IP H R ER BB SO HR BFP[/b] Gibbon L(3-5) 0.2 5 5 5 0 0 1 7 Priddy 2 4 3 3 2 0 2 12 Sadecki 6.1 11 9 5 2 4 2 33 [b]Totals[/b] 9 20 17 13 4 4 5 52 [b]WP:[/b] Sadecki (5). [b]Umpires:[/b] HP - Doug Harvey, 1B - Harry Wendelstedt, 2B - Shag Crawford, 3B - Ed Vargo [b]Time of Game:[/b] 2:42 [b]Attendance:[/b] 27002 Starting Lineups: Atlanta Braves San Francisco Giants 1. Alou 1b Alou rf 2. Jones cf Haller c 3. Aaron rf Mays cf 4. Carty lf McCovey 1b 5. Torre c Hart 3b 6. Bolling 2b Gabrielson lf 7. Woodward ss Davenport ss 8. Menke 3b Lanier 2b 9. Cloninger p Gibbon p BRAVES 1ST: Alou made an out to second; Jones singled; Aaron forced Jones (second to shortstop); Carty singled to right [Aaron to third]; Torre homered [Aaron scored, Carty scored]; Bolling singled; Woodward singled to right [Bolling to third]; PRIDDY REPLACED GIBBON (PITCHING); Menke walked [Woodward to second]; [b]Cloninger homered [Bolling scored, Woodward scored, Menke scored][/b]; Alou grounded out (shortstop to first); 7 R, 6 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. Braves 7, Giants 0. GIANTS 1ST: Alou grounded out (second to first); Haller walked; Mays grounded into a double play (shortstop to second to first) [Haller out at second]; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. Braves 7, Giants 0. BRAVES 2ND: Jones made an out to second; Aaron flied out to center; Carty homered; Torre singled to center; Bolling made an out to first; 1 R, 2 H, 0 E, 1 LOB. Braves 8, Giants 0. GIANTS 2ND: McCovey struck out; Hart popped to first in foul territory; Gabrielson made an out to shortstop; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. Braves 8, Giants 0. BRAVES 3RD: DIETZ REPLACED MCCOVEY (PLAYING C ); HALLER CHANGED POSITIONS (PLAYING 1B); Woodward doubled to right; Menke made an out to first; Cloninger grounded out (shortstop to first); Alou walked; SADECKI REPLACED PRIDDY (PITCHING); Jones was called out on strikes; 0 R, 1 H, 0 E, 2 LOB. Braves 8, Giants 0. GIANTS 3RD: Davenport flied out to right; Lanier reached on an error by Cloninger (assist by Alou); Sadecki struck out; Alou singled to center [Lanier to third]; Haller made an out to third; 0 R, 1 H, 1 E, 2 LOB. Braves 8, Giants 0. BRAVES 4TH: MASON REPLACED DAVENPORT (PLAYING 2B); LANIER CHANGED POSITIONS (PLAYING SS); Aaron grounded out (second to first); Carty walked; Torre reached on an error by Hart [Carty to second]; Bolling singled to left [Torre to second, Carty scored]; Woodward made an out to shortstop; Menke walked [Torre to third, Bolling to second]; [b]Cloninger homered (unearned) [Torre scored (unearned), Bolling scored (unearned), Menke scored (unearned)][/b]; Alou reached on an error by Lanier; Jones struck out; 5 R (1 ER), 2 H, 2 E, 1 LOB. Braves 13, Giants 0. GIANTS 4TH: DE LA HOZ REPLACED ALOU (PLAYING 3B); MENKE CHANGED POSITIONS (PLAYING 1B); Mays walked; Dietz was called out on strikes; Cloninger threw a wild pitch [Mays to second]; Hart singled [Mays to third]; Gabrielson singled to right [Hart to second, Mays scored]; Mason flied out to right; Lanier flied out to left; 1 R, 2 H, 0 E, 2 LOB. Braves 13, Giants 1. BRAVES 5TH: LANDRUM REPLACED MAYS (PLAYING CF); Aaron homered; Carty singled to right; Torre flied out to center; Bolling forced Carty (shortstop to second); Woodward singled to left [Bolling to second]; Menke forced Bolling (third unassisted); 1 R, 3 H, 0 E, 2 LOB. Braves 14, Giants 1. GIANTS 5TH: GEIGER REPLACED AARON (PLAYING RF); Sadecki homered; Alou flied out to center; Haller popped to catcher in foul territory; Landrum flied out to right; 1 R, 1 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. Braves 14, Giants 2. BRAVES 6TH: Cloninger flied out to left; de la Hoz grounded out (third to first); Jones singled to left [Jones to second (error by Gabrielson)]; Geiger struck out; 0 R, 1 H, 1 E, 1 LOB. Braves 14, Giants 2. GIANTS 6TH: Dietz grounded out (shortstop to first); Hart grounded out (shortstop to first); Gabrielson grounded out (second to first); 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. Braves 14, Giants 2. BRAVES 7TH: VIRGIL REPLACED HART (PLAYING 3B); Carty grounded out (shortstop to first); Torre flied out to center; Bolling grounded out (second to first); 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. Braves 14, Giants 2. GIANTS 7TH: HERRNSTEIN REPLACED CARTY (PLAYING LF); Mason flied out to center; Lanier singled to center; Sadecki popped to third in foul territory; Alou flied out to right; 0 R, 1 H, 0 E, 1 LOB. Braves 14, Giants 2. BRAVES 8TH: Woodward doubled to left; Menke grounded out (shortstop to first); Sadecki threw a wild pitch [Woodward to third]; Cloninger singled to left [Woodward scored]; de la Hoz grounded into a double play (third to second to first) [Cloninger out at second]; 1 R, 2 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. Braves 15, Giants 2. GIANTS 8TH: Haller homered; Landrum struck out; Dietz grounded out (shortstop to first); Virgil struck out; 1 R, 1 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. Braves 15, Giants 3. BRAVES 9TH: Jones doubled to center; Geiger doubled to right [Jones scored]; Herrnstein flied out to left; Torre singled to right [Geiger to third]; Bolling hit a sacrifice fly to right [Geiger scored]; Woodward was called out on strikes; 2 R, 3 H, 0 E, 1 LOB. Braves 17, Giants 3. GIANTS 9TH: Gabrielson grounded out (first to pitcher); Mason made an out to shortstop; Lanier singled to left; PETERSON BATTED FOR SADECKI; Peterson grounded out (second to first); 0 R, 1 H, 0 E, 1 LOB. Braves 17, Giants 3. Final Totals R H E LOB Braves 17 20 1 8 Giants 3 7 3 6

That worked. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

I like the idea of texting, but the I'm lost with the directions. Which information goes where?

Whenever I leave the store down the road, I pass a sign that says "Crappie Minnows." Yes, I know what it means, but the first thing that pops into my mind is that there's something wrong with the minnows.

I eyeballed the Milwaukee Braves all-time roster. The one name that stuck out as being worthy of discussion is Joe Torre. He certainly beats out his brother Frank. The bottom line is that the way the Braves are being dealt with just isn't working. A committee of about a dozen people should be set up to meet, evaluate criteria and stats, choose players, and be done with it. Regarding Al Simmons, I wouldn't be against doing something to honor the best of the Wisconsin-born players, but I'd fear that putting them up to a vote would be a repeat of the Braves mess. If this were done right, Andy Pafko might be worthy of inclusion. He doesn't really cut it as a Brave, but his career achievements could very well qualify him.

I concur with all the names above, and I'd add Bamberger, Buhl and possibly Burnitz, Slaton and Moore. When Bikage77 says "consideration," I take that to mean ballot-worthy (not necessarily shrine-worthy). So yeah, I'd think those names are ballot-worthy. I'd really like to know who's voting on this.... it seems almost like it's team employees or something- hence the high vote totals for Augustine, Castro and Schroeder. I think we've seen evidence in the past that team employees are among the voters. That also probably explains why Logan has higher vote totals than Adcock and Crandall; Johnny has been part of the Brewers "family" for its entire existence. Of course, the difference between Logan and Augustine/Castro/Schroeder is that Johnny is both ballot-worthy and shrine-worthy. I have a vague memory of sort-of-a fan vote being involved one year, but I haven't found supporting evidence, so perhaps I imagined it. They involved the fans one year, but I don't recall exactly how it worked. It might have been that the fan totals counted as one voter on the official ballot. This year, 57 people voted. That doesn't mean that everyone turned in a ballot, though.

Five hundred homers used to be an automatic ticket to the Hall; 493 would have been close enough to force a guy into the discussion. But now a bunch of guys have hit 500 homers with chemical assistance, so that benchmark is (temporarily or permanently) dead. Heck, 400 homers was an automatic ticket until Dave Kingman appeared on the ballot in 1992. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

It appears to me that the voters either aren't qualified to vote on the Braves or that they're not doing any homework. The only Braves currently represented are Eddie Matthews, Warren Spahn, Lew Burdette, and GM John Quinn. There were too many good players who were in Braves uniforms for too long not to have better representation. Adcock should be a lock. Crandall, too. And probably Logan. And maybe Buhl. Almost all of the names certainly deserve higher voting percentages. The Brewers probably aren't helping matters. Mantilla and Torre were bench players. That makes me wonder if there are names that are missing from the ballot that should be included.

Celestially departed?

I just ran across the term "celestially discharged" as synonym for "died." I kind of like that.