OldSchoolSnapper

I don't think that's quite what was said. He came out of Hades and had messages that he was being shopped. And his knee-jerk was 'I'm 90% toward retiring.' I took it as more of a, 'I'm 40, I don't want to go through something new.' But after a couple of days came around to reality that he wanted to play and both sides were mutually disinterested in that being in GB. IMO, he's not coming across as particularly bitter at all though I'm sure it will get reported that way. He also claims he has little/nothing to do with who's been signed. Claims they asked him about Lazard.

For those unable to see the soap opera, Rodgers says the Packers told him the door was open after the season if he wanted to play again. Says after the darkness retreat, he was getting texts and such that he was being shopped, and was 90% retiring. Dwelled on it and wanted to play for the Jets, says he is not holding things up, it's the teams.

The problem is that comps are almost never actually comps because each situation has 10 variables. There isn't one name on that list who's a one-year rental expectation at time of trade, or 40 like Rodgers could/will be. And that's not even getting into who's available at the time of trade, time of year, how badly he has to be traded. It's never as simple as Player A was worse than Player B so Player B should fetch more.

He was pretty good the year he was traded though which Rodgers was not. I think Rodgers is still going to be really good if he plays and other teams think that too. I'd expect Rodgers to be valued higher than Favre, but a 1st for a 40 y/o QB, whose team has publicly said they don't want him, is a lofty expectation. It's weird because both teams really can't afford not to make this happen. Possibly even more so for the Jets.

I'd be pretty shocked if the Packers got a 1st. Not exactly the same but I don't recall what Favre got, a 4th? But isn't this kind of DEFCON 1 now for NYJ, who's playing QB if not Rodgers? So who knows. I had a vision last night the Packers bailed out and just named Love the starter.

I'm just ready for everyone to transition from complaining about how long it's taking to complaining about the return and how we should have traded him two years ago.

I don't think it's a lot like The Decision. For one, he's not the biggest star in football in the absolute prime of his career and GB fans and team aren't praying for his return. If I were Rodgers I wouldn't give the scoop to a reporter either. They've done nothing but ridicule and mock him for the last two years and every off-the-cuff remark he's made on that show is a headline for a month. Plus this way he can spin it his way and come out saying the hold-up had nothing to do with me, etc. He could be making all that up of course, but I can't say I blame the guy for wanting to speak himself and not through ESPN or whoever. Why not let his buddies get the scoop?

The lack of investment in WRs is such a bizarre trope to me. He has consistently played with an all-pro WR from Day 1 until this past season, and almost always had a good OL. I suspect BK whiffed on thinking D.Adams was bluffing. I said this at the time, bu not signing Adams was a blessing for the long-term prospects of the team. They also invested quite a few picks in WRs who just sucked, but it isn't like they didn't try. Rodgers must think the WRs were good since he wants them all to move with him. If we need 3 all-pro WRs for our $50mm QB something is very wrong. I also feel like people flip-flopped on this constantly. We needed to give Rodgers a defense and he can throw to whoever, no wait, we failed him at WR. Honestly, I don't really get the big issue with the current FO. They've had some god-awful 3rd round picks and yeah nothing's been perfect, but generally I feel like attempts have been made to improve things with varying results. There are picks I'd like to have back and such, but I had way more anguish over late-stage Ted Thompson doing NOTHING year after year and just watching prime Rodgers be Atlas for what were 5-11 teams. I think everybody is upset to varying degrees we got one title out of Rodgers. That's fair. Most people seem to have a person or two they blame for that. Personally I've just sort of accepted we were painfully close a bunch of times and just had some really unlucky fortune. It happens like that sometimes though, that is sport.

I think any front office argument is bunk after 2018. They did a lot to improve the team through various methods. You can get things wrong but that isn't the same as not helping. Plus, the whole thing kinda falls apart for me because a talent void wasn't keeping them out of the Super Bowl. They had teams to do it, just didn't execute. It happens. No guarantees of anything. When you lose at home to SF on a punt block that is not because you drafted Jordan Love. It's just way too myopic for me to waste my time thinking about. Im pretty glad they drafted Love right now anyway.

I could totally see Rodgers throwing in the condition that he gets to announce this to the world personally.

Lazard does make some sense for them. With a WR like Wilson he is a good 2/3, the Packers tried to pretend he was a 1 for most of the season. He's not a bad player. Big time size and not afraid to lay a block. I'm not seeing him as a 4th WR at all - after Wilson they don't have much at all. Jury may be out on Moore but he had a bad year 2. Lewis is probably harmless. If I'm the Jets I draw the line at Cobb. Or try to.

I think they kinda suck, actually, outside Wilson. One guy is a top pick bust from years ago and the other I think the jury is out on. Lazard is actually a good fit for them. He can block and provides some size they are lacking. I'm wish tplush on the antics though. Setting aside reality that most of the guys are washed up, Rodgers is 40 and wants friends on the team. I kind of respect what he's doing; nobody can say he's a disloyal friend, and it's just kind of funny watching him make execs squirm on his puppet strings. These people have no issues tossing old players into the street, so it's just kind of amusing watching him flip the script. I get that he may be hurting his own cause and either doesn't realize this or doesn't care, but it is still funny to watch.

Man, the 2011 Jets are gonna be totally sweet

Hearing the Jets brought in Jordy Nelson and Ryan Grant for workouts too...

Yeah I'm sorry, but, his accuracy in college holds almost no weight anymore. This isn't college football. It's a completely different speed. I'll readily concede that it's fair to say he could be really good and that he might be an accurate passer at some point - hell, there are even some advanced metrics that are favorable with his accuracy, but today, right now, he is not a pass-first NFL QB. It's completely fair to say the crap he's been surrounded with isn't a fair shake, though.

Yeah...I said that you remember Favre's - which you do - and was pointing out that Chad Clifton isn't a comp. I didn't say it was fantastic. Thanks for explaining "how it ends" for the 15th time. Such a bizarre hill you're dying on here. I'm sorry I wish Rodgers had a better exit, I guess.

Everybody remembers Brett Favre's. Let's not pretend Chad Clifton or Reggie's White second stop is even remotely close to Aaron Rodgers. But whatever. I'm not sure why you keep explaining to me it's time to move on. I've said that multiple times since February. It can still be a bit of a bummer; those two things can co-exist.

Hysterical. I hope they sign Cobb too and Wilson has 9 catches through week 5. Lazard probably would be their 2nd best WR though. Most amusing part of this is, anyone who's read Gunslinger can recall the passage about how the roster began to divide between Rodgers Guys and Favre Guys. Guess what one of the criteria was? "Favre had 'his guys'. Rodgers just threw the ball."

I think it's time to turn our attention to Philly and not Boston. Philly has always seemed to present a matchup challenge and Embiid is so much more consistent than Tatum. I don't think Boston can beat the Bucks at full strength. I'm not sure Philly can either but those teams appear to be trending in opposite directions.

You can't at all understand why I think it sucks that a 4-time MVP who was winning those awards as recently as two seasons ago, arguably (likely) the best player to EVER wear our uniform...is leaving after losing a home game to the Detroit Lions in an 8-9 season that began with SB expectations...with a good chunk of fans cheering his exit and blaming him for a holding up a trade he probably has nothing to do with? I'm pretty sure there's a middleground between sunset and this.

I'm not sure why you're suggesting I think he should still be our QB, lol. Like, I think they should trade him. I also think it's a lame ending. Like, it would have been less lame even if they'd gone 4-13 and we went into the last game knowing he was done. Give him a standing O, lots of fan fare, etc. He'll get all that stuff after he retires, but the last game being what it was feels extremely anti-climactic. It was also just strange feeling like it went from 20% odds he left to about 99% a week after the season. I know I thought he'd be back for one more after that game, but a week later I thought he was out.

Yeah I mean I don't think I need it explained to me why they are moving on. I just think it's kind of a bummer the best player in the most storied franchise's history is going out so whimper-like. To quote Josh Sitton, "Everybody gets dumped in this business.

C'mon. That's a huge assumption. It's the NFL. They could make the playoffs this year for all we know.

He ran for 1,000 yards and is struggling to complete 60% of his passes. He is, right now, a one-look and dash QB. He's super young and his roster was terrible, from the targets to the protection, and they were scared of letting him throw for a while, so I'll cut him a lot of slack. But I think he's going to end up serviceable with a prolonged career based on pure athleticism, but bouncing around several teams. I'm sure that trade scores out beautifully, but my point is if that 2024 pick becomes 18th overall and Fields has a bad year, it's not going to seem all that great if they're on year 40 of the QB search in 2025. I'm glad they seem convinced he's the guy, cus I don't think he is.

At face value the Bears trade looks nice, except Justin Fields most likely sucks and if they miss out on Mahomes II again at #1, none of it will matter. I was hoping all along they buy into their own hype train that they don't need to draft a QB #1 because I really believe they should have done it anyway. I thinks Fields ceiling is not far off what we've already seen. He's fine and will last a while bouncing around, but I don't think he's "the guy."