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How hard would it be to make a majority of these rooms handicap accessible - particularly 1st floor rooms? IMO that's an less risky set of obstacles to get beyond compared to sending infected people into nursing homes - call me crazy I guess. The whole stigma of "this is where covid patients stayed"...really? So the Javits Center is just going to have to get bulldozed after this now, too? To me that would be a badge of honor after this passes, knowing full well when things would revert back to normal operation that hotel/conference center/whatever would be sanitized and cleaner than anything else around it. Yes really. It doesn't have to make any sense for it to be a factor. No one wants to walk into that first without knowing the result. If you are a large corp sending 50 reps at a time to a hotel, and Holiday Inn hosted COVID patients 2 weeks ago you will just call Hyatt instead. As for outfitting a bunch of rooms with ADA tubs and the like, all of it takes money and time, and the ADA room have different square footage requirements as well.
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What hotel is going to sign up for being the COVID19 infirmary? One that has been essentially empty - take your pick of about 95% of them since mid March. Obviously they wouldn't do it for free, but neither do nursing homes. Seems like an exaggeration, but acknowledging that the vacancies are plenty, that's not really something they want to be known for once travel resumes. It's completely irrational from the standpoint of actually getting people sick, but no hotel wants the "We're open for business now, and yes, this is where all the COVID people stayed" stigma. Hotels are pretty used to having open rooms and less busy times anyway. Much more suited to deal with peaks and valleys than something like a restaurant.
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What hotel is going to sign up for being the COVID19 infirmary?
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COVID-19 aftermath: What things will change forever?
OldSchoolSnapper replied to adambr2's topic in Off-Topic Forum
They kept getting bigger anyway despite families getting smaller. There was very, very recently some push back on this with fewer young people able to buy starter homes. Just in the last 12 months there was a resurgence of sanity and regular-sized homes. Student loans, stagnant wages, etc., all helped contributed to younger people skewing to rent. Builders have just recently started to respond. -
I generally side with the players but the concept of a bunch of 20 and 30 something pro athletes playing quarantined baseball "risking their health" is getting pretty liberal with "risk." They're both blowing a tremendous opportunity for baseball so that the NFL can swoop in and be America's sweetheart once again.
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POJs still have to be maintained, too. Isn't it easier and more sanitary to maintain a public restroom than a POJ? I can't think of any advantage of a POJ over a public restroom besides being portable and cheaper. Public bathrooms, especially ones in parks with little or no supervision, are invitations for vandalism, prostitution and drugs. Many are deadbolted Dec-Apr for this reason.
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I don't follow exactly. No one is maintaining the restrooms? Then that answers the question. You can't just open a public restroom without anyone working it, plus that's a magnet for all kinds of unsavory people all hours of the night.
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I don't think this is really all that relevant. The on-field contact seems to buried on the list of obstacles to playing. It's all the stuff that goes on between games that's just as hard to plan around. If it were that simple, really, football sort of has an advantage. They're all covered in gear and it would pretty simple to outfit the helmet for a kind of mask, and make everyone wear gloves. They play way less, too.
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COVID-19 aftermath: What things will change forever?
OldSchoolSnapper replied to adambr2's topic in Off-Topic Forum
The hammer is dropping big time in the UW System. I'm not sure if this has been in the news at all yet but staff at least one school I have ties to are being forced to take unpaid furloughs and there are major program cuts coming. Satellite schools have been given a directive to identify core strengths. Big changes are on the horizon. -
This is just not true. Last time I checked, several teams, including both in New York and the Dodgers, had the same policy as the Brewers - refunding through April and no later. It's not that I don't think their policy is a bit annoying, it's that given the fluidity of the situation I understand the teams' desire to want to wait until they have all the information before rolling out a concrete plan. They want to know what the future holds somewhat, to be able to entice people to rollover money that is a boost to their operating expenses. And yes, on some level, this is exactly about making a phone call. This is not a normal PPD/cancel situation by any stretch. To expect to put in a little bit of work on your end to get a refund, I personally find that very reasonable. It's been in the news that they offer refunds. It would require 1/10 as much energy to solve a problem personally than it takes to spend weeks complaining about how unjust it is.
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It's really strange. The number of times I've had to get on the phone to solve something about getting money back with Costco, Amex, Chase, Kohl's, Walmart, Home Depot, etc...I can't believe one-to-one contact is considered some kind of absurd interaction. I don't know how something can be botched when you literally have to make one phone call and get your money.
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Truthfully I shop Menard's all the time because the lumberyard seems to blow Home Depot away. It's the tools that I just walk past most days.
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What about Menards, where no contractor should be shopping?
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Absolutely, but they have been playing pretty fast and loose with that. Home Depot, the whole place has to be at full operations? Frozen custard? The consistency has been a problem. How much non-essential crap did Walmart get out of this? How many pairs of underwear that would have been purchased at Kohl's, etc.
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To clarify, my issue is with the selective reasoning. The logic used to discern what is "dangerous" is completely inconsistent. My local pubs have 10 customers a night. There is no rationale for that being more dangerous than Walmart. It has nothing to do with my politics, which again skew left, but there is just no way anyone can believe that. We are not talking about something like a Brother's in downtown Milwaukee. The broad-brush approach to this in a country of 325 million spread across an entire continent was dumb from the get-go. Wisconsin alone is half the size of Germany.
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I have spent a lot of time in Home Depot and a lot of time in a bar and comparing the two is apples to oranges for me. The amount of contact with other people, the duration in the building, the ability to control behavior, etc are very different in my mind. We can agree to disagree. The issue isnt opening up. It is opening without a plan. Florida, Georgia, etc had fairly strict guidelines in place. The Supreme Court ruling and the lack of an agreed upon plan after the ruling was the mistake. The republicans thought there would be a stay so they could negotiate. They were wrong. Read their comments leading up to the decision. They were saying this would force the two sides to come together on a plan. Evers doesnt have to save face because the majority of Wisconsinites - almost 70 percent - approved of Safer at Home. He still had a 64% approval for how he is handling the virus and a 59% overall. I dont have a strong opinion on Evers but polling wise he is doing better than a few other leaders We'll disagree then because my Home Depot has been Walt Disney World during Christmas. Minimal masks, staff talking to people 6 inches from their face. The idea that the virus isn't a "threat" there is laughable. It also has 1000x the daily traffic of a local pub, which is really the major difference that would indeed make it "apples to oranges" - a big box with 3,000 hand prints a day is worse. FVF has discussed the flaws with polling, but the public support for Safer at Home has been declining quite rapidly. It would probably poll 50/50 by June 1.
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It isn't forever, but it's likely getting extended. During the last recession unemployment was extended for 99 weeks. Not an extra $600 for 99 weeks, but some form of unemployment steroids is all but assured.
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I had a buddy send me a picture from a bar in Fondy last night. Follows all the orders and agrees with them. Said he needed to get some time away from his wife. Said they were at each others necks. Seems like a different issue here and probably not the norm...Weird logic as well. Follows and "agrees" with the orders, goes to a bar within minutes of them being struck down.
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Probably won't affect much since it is a very short-term thing and those kinds of jobs are revolving doors that won't stay open for someone that decides to sit around for 4 months when offered their job back. I suppose if you truly hated your job and could find another one just like it, then yeah, probably.
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This all seems like a bit of an overreaction. What kind of person do you think was rushing to the pub on Wednesday night in Sheboygan? Probably someone who didn't have a lot of respect for the order in the first place. Honestly, think Evers should have just relented on the non-major cities himself to save a bit of face on a ruling he was bound to lose anyway. This is like the 8th time I've mentioned Home Depot. But anyone who's been to one recently wouldn't be too concerned with a few townie pubs opening doors.
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I was hoping it would at least be a 5-2 vote so we could at least pretend someone listened to an argument.
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The larger group is saying the Brewers made a mistake with their first communication by not immediately and very clearly offering refunds to ticket holders for cancelled games. Something they changed less than 48 hours later. Someone else is stating that the Brewers made no mistake, that they didn't change their policy at all because internally they had a completely different secret policy than the one they communicated publicly. Yeah, this is almost 1/10th accurate. My "argument" was that you all freaked out about it when it was resolved within a 24-hour period, and was likely planned to be resolved the entire time pending info from MLB. Then my second "argument" was that if it bothers one that much, to simply get on a phone and solve the issue. But response #1 these days seems to be leaving negative feedback or whining on a forum before contacting a vendor. It's weird and I must be getting old.
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Actually, you're correct, it would be an incredible lack of foresight, that much is true. But I don't think they were really entertaining it as the most likely, or even a likely outcome. I think they made that deal thinking there would be games in June or July, fully attended, and it would work out OK for them.
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The agreement was made on or around March 26th. If the owners didn't know by that point that fanless baseball was a very strong possibility for 2020, they had an incredible lack of foresight. That's extremely revisionist. On March 17 I posted that I did not think we would have any baseball and pretty much nobody agreed with that. The consensus at that point was we were looking at starting a plain old season On June 1. The season continuing in July with no fans the entire way was perhaps a whisper, but I'm all but certain the owners did not anticipate that realistically when they agreed to that deal. So maybe they just do have an incredible lack of foresight being that they, you know, own the teams. But that is not what the pulse of the public was at that time. People were still hoping to resume a school year and all sorts of things that now look like fantasies.
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I live in Washington County and at least in my area the lockdown was never taken seriously and it feels like 4/5 people were actively against it. The skate park was slammed last weekend, every open retailer has been slammed and people were gathering at playgrounds before they roped them off. Anything the state didn't force to close was more or less normal. I went into a restaurant for curbside pickup at one point and when I called the place the owner just said "Just come on in, we're not really doing that." There were like 10 people inside picking up.
