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  1. Based on my opinion. No way "I" see it: The first 3 years of a Greinke $20m per year, 5 year extension 2013: $36.25m Braun: $8.5m Weeks: $10m Ramirez: $10m Gallardo: $7.75m Greinke at $20m puts them at $56.25m locked into 5 players in 2013 2014: $48.25m Braun: $10m Weeks: $11m Ramirez: $16m Gallardo: $11.25m Greinke at $20m puts them at $68.25m locked into 5 players in 2014 2015: $50.50m Braun: $12m Weeks: $11.5m (option) Ramirez: $14m (option) Gallardo: $13m (option) Greinke at $20m puts them at $70.70m locked into 5 players in 2015 2015 I think Ramirez will be gone but that only saves $10m, as there is a $4m buyout. Weeks and Yo would likely have their options picked up. Given the Brewers are at the threshold of $100 million already, it would take some significant manuevering to make this work. Look I hope I am wrong but I don't think I am.
  2. You are only taking into 2008 forward. According Baseball Reference, Greinke's career WAR is 24.4 in 1279.2. Cain's is 25.0 in 1317.1 IP. This apparently shows Greinke is a good comp to Cain but is not significantly better or worse. Given the two choices, I would choose Cain.
  3. THIS! 100% agree. If Gonzalez were to get hurt, I think we would see a trade or Maysonet before Izturis was run out there everyday. If this is the case, what is the point? RR likely will not PH for Gonzalez or use Izturis as a defensive replacement because Gonzalez is just as good as Izturis. There really is no point in having Izturis. Fontenot would at least bring the threat of a bat. Yuniesky Izturis lives!
  4. And for what it's worth... Bye Zack. Thanks for being a Brewer. There is no way I see Attanasio giving Grienke $100 million over 5 years.
  5. Respectfully disagree Old City. Greinke had by far the best season of both of their careers in 2009, but Cain has been the better overall pitcher when you look at the numbers. Cain is a year younger, has almost a half run lower ERA over his career, lower WHIP. I don't think Cain is necessarily substantially better, but I do think he is the better and more consistent pitcher.
  6. Well, like I said in the Greinke thread, Cain is worth more than Greinke. He's been the better pitcher by far in my opinion. However, I doubt Greinke will come in at anything less than 5 years $100 million now.
  7. Well that officially depressed me. Greinke isn't worth the same as Cain but if Cain signs this then I think Greinke will get more than this. Supply dwindles, demand and cost goes up. Great...
  8. Interesting tweet from Heyman: Jon Heyman ‏ @JonHeymanCBS Votto told me earlier he felt reds were not the same as #brewers in terms of market and could afford it. I guess they can. That is a fascinating statement from Votto. I never really considered Cincinnati a passionate market. They only drew 2,060,550 (average of 25,439) in 2010 when they won the NL Central. That ranked 12th of the 16 NL teams. I wonder what exactly he meant by that statement.
  9. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/04/reds-to-extend-joey-votto.html Um...what?!?! Cincinnati can afford a $200 million dollar contract?
  10. I understand precisely what you're saying about the Dodgers, I guess I should have been more clear when specifying which team in LA I was referencing. While the Dodgers don't have a "win now" attitude, the Angels absolutely do, and I can see Arte Moreno going hard after Zack regardless of how the Angels do this year as he continues to turn LA in to Yankees West. This, again, is where I think Milwaukee has an advantage. The National League is far and away more friendly to pitchers, and thus I truly feel that the only real competition for Greinke is going to come from other NL teams. I don't think an AL team has a legit shot at Greinke unless they totally go above and beyond with a contract offer. Greinke wants to hit and this will keep him in the NL. Right now, the teams I see as most likely to land Greinke if the Brewers don't extend are the Dodgers, Rockies, Cubs and Cardinals. Every other team in the NL either is locked into long term deals with pitchers already (Giants, Marlins, Phillies & Nationals), have studs coming (Diamondbacks & Braves) or won't be able to afford him (Reds, Mets, Padres & Pirates).
  11. I think we as Brewers fans overstate this immensely because it serves our argument and makes Greinke more likely to stay in Milwaukee. While none of us can really speak to his state of mind, I still have to believe that there are two things that will matter to Greinke that will determine where he signs: 1. Money 2. Likelihood of winning I am of the opinion that there is an agreed to number between the Brewers and Greinke at this very moment and that Greinke is simply waiting to determine how competitive the Brewers will be sans Fielder. Additionally, I think Greinke is waiting to determine how successful the Brewers will be able to be this season when they are paying Braun, Weeks, Gallardo and himself all salaries north of $10 million. While Greinke will have to take a leap of faith there, I can see him waiting to determine if the Brewers can or will remain competitive given those four players will eat almost half of the payroll. Honestly, there is no pressure to win in LA right now. Even when the Dodgers were in their heyday, the writers in the local papers and on local radio are nowhere near as vicious as New York, Boston or Chicago. In fact they aren't vicious at all. Given the Dodgers new ownership, this is my most likely place for Greinke to land absent an extension with Milwaukee given they will have the money, are in the NL so Greinke can continue to bat and will likely be competitive for the forseeable future given the current economic structure in baseball.
  12. I really want an extension with ZG to get done but he will likely best those 5 years $85 million offers on the FA market. Unfortunately, I don't see the Brewers being able to go much higher than that and if he wants much more, then he will be an ex-Brewer in 2013.
  13. That news stinks. I won't ever go back to Maryvale given the locations of the other stadiums in the Cactus League.
  14. http://cdn.bleacherreport.com/images_root/image_pictures/0317/4044/63990_crop_340x234.jpg
  15. I'd be very happy with Fontenot as the backup SS. He has a little thump in his bat. If nothing else, the Brewers would have some versatile backup utility IF with him and Conrad being able to play all over the diamond.
  16. And they have a manager who has never managed before and they don't have Dave Duncan. I understand the talent is there with Berkman, Beltran and Furcal but these guys aren't 30 and this isn't 2005. I could understand the idea of the Cardinals potentially running away with the division if this were the case, but it is not. I think it is just as likely these guys will break down, like Carpenter already has, then to regain the form that made these guys all stars in the past.
  17. Magic made a lot of his money through the placement of Fatburger, Starbucks and movie theaters in the rougher parts of the greater Los Angeles area.
  18. The buzz today in LA is unreal and it's only 8am. This is the equivalent of Brett Favre (prior to 2008) buying the Brewers from the Seligs. The love for Magic in LA is universal and they are already discussing who might be available in trades to upgrade this team immediately. I would think it is a near lock that when Joey Votto becomes a FA after 2013 that the Dodgers are the heavy favorite. Additionally, it wouldn't be hard for me to see a Dodger OF next season of Ethier, Kemp and Josh Hamilton. This ownership group is going to spend money. Wow. As to how this will affect the Brewers, let me say this. Now is definitely the time to lock up Zack Greinke. A Kershaw-Greinke 1-2 in LA would be high on my list if I am Stan Kasten even with Cain and Hamels also potentially out there. I think we're about to see the Dodgers join the Yankees, Red Sox and Phillies as enormous spenders.
  19. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_40zQ4e6dHbY/TE0ZvjKZ1hI/AAAAAAAAG08/WTbKKLUaxbA/s1600/alg_whitey-herzog.jpg This loser drinks Bud Light. By rule, I automatically discount anything he says.
  20. I tend to think of the sacred numbers as 755 and 61 still but that's just me.
  21. I am willing to take a flyer on LaPorta only because of the redundancy of Morgan/Aoki/Schafer and complete lack of power from our backup OF and our backup IF. I don't think trading Morgan will bring anything of substantial value given his deficiencies against LHP. He's probably more valuable to us than on the market and would likely only bring back a fallen prospect such as LaPorta. Additionally, I'm not looking at LaPorta as anything other than a backup OF/1B/PH, not a platoon partner for Gamel. I am a big supporter of Gamel and think he'll be a big producer by midseason. Given the construction of our roster currently, I think a bench of: LaPorta, Kottaras, Izturis, Conrad, Aoki/Gomez is better than Aoki, Kottaras, Izturis, Conrad, Morgan/Gomez
  22. Every year, Uni Watch does a breakdown of the unique uniforms teams across MLB will debut over the course of the upcoming season. This year's version came out today. http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/story/_/id/7740160/uni-watch-dissects-baseball-uniform-revisions-comprehensive-mlb-2012-season-preview Interesting that the Brewers will have an Italian night on July 1. First team to do German language and now first to do Italian. I like it. Additionally, I would love to see the Brewers add a version of what the Giants did with there alternate road uniform. The cap logo across the left breast. A M with barley navy blue or a ball in glove royal blue alternate like this would look fantastic in my opinion. Anyone care to do a mock up of something like this?
  23. LaPorta sent to the Minors today. http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/index.ssf/2012/03/cleveland_indians_latest_cuts.html I would seriously call the Indians today if I were Melvin and just ask what they would want. Maybe they need a CF to fill in while Sizemore is out. I mean they have Shelly Duncan listed as their starting LF right now. Move Brantley to LF and trade for Nyjer. Nyjer for LaPorta?
  24. So what's the hold up here? I think the Brewers have serious interest in extending Greinke and I believe there is a post back in these threads where Melvin or Ash was quoted using the comps of Verlander, King Felix and Weaver. All in the 5 years $80-$90 million range. Assuming that the use of these comps means the Brewers would be willing to give Greinke this deal today, I have to assume the holdup is on Greinke's end. If that is the case, I have to ask myself what he is holding back for. The only logical thoughts in my mind are: 1. More money 2. Unsure of Brewers long term competitiveness Other than those two things, I am not sure I understand the holdup here. Is there more to this situation in anyone else's mind?
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