thats also assuming that we have zero pitchers from A+/AA/AAA make any strides and improvements to jump to the majors by 2016. we have Fiers, Pena, Hellweg, Jungmann, Bradley, etc etc etc, if the front office continues to be proactive and promote players quickly through the system we could have even more (Wagner, Lopez, whoeverelse). To think that the only pitching prospect we have to have any value in the rotation in 2 years is being rather dismissive of the talent we have, which is how this fanbase has thought of our team over the last 4 - 5 years... decade...