And during his time with Holmgren, many... many mistakes were made. Mental and physical. Never once pulled or not started in all those years. Annnnnnd Holmgren was never fired. What's your damn point?!? My god. Well you clearly don't get the point. Mistakes are not the issue. Baseball is full of many more mistakes than any other sport. The point is learning from them and improving. The point is not tolerating mistakes and working hard to not repeat them. The Brewer do not do that, they continue to repeat over and over. When there is a big spot, they try to hit HRs and chase pitches outside of the zone. Over, and over, and over. Shaw wasn't thinking on the field, it happens. I am just speculating, but I assume CC did not use that as teachable moment to get the team to focus on this game. He is not going to try to do or say anything to improve, just shrug his shoulders and say o well that happens. That's all that I needed to see. You don't know. You actually have no clue. So calling for a managers head is reactionary to the play and very silly.