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  1. Waiving Scooter who would go on to hit 27 HR and knock in 97 runs in under 500 AB was not a "minor blemish". It cost them a playoff berth. But worse was getting 2 nondescript minor leaguers for a guy who would go on to do something no Brewer hitter in history has done, that is hit 40+ HR in back to back seasons. I'm speaking of Krush Davis. It's not that he traded Davis. Eventually that was going to happen. But he jumped the gun and settled for minimal return. Davis was clearly blossoming as a premier power bat at the end of 2015. He just hadn't put it together over a full season due to an injury earlier that year. Stearns has done a lot of good things, but he severely mis-evaluated two players who were already here when he arrived. Out of respect to not hijacking the topic I leave it at that. No matter what, if it is Duffy, maybe trading Broxton to get Matt Moore, or any other option. I want them to get a lefty. Have a feeling Hader will be in pen. I think Suter is good swing guy but not a guy who will make our rotation what we want it to be. My mind is just blown that Wolf in 2012 is our last full time lefty starter. That is awful. I know I am biased as a lefty but every team should have some balance in rotation. In perfect world you have two you split every other day. If anyone argues Suter is better than Moore.... understandable but despite his struggles I think he can he still has the natural stuff that once made him an elite prospect and young pitcher for the Rays. Still only 28 and bounce back/ career revival guy. Doubt it is realist anyways
  2. The one area we have really to seem to lack in signing for international prospects is pitching. Not to many arms have been coming in and making it stateside or seen much success. Most of our international arms have all been acquired in trades. Hopefully we are able to bring in some bring in some big arms in the next year or two as we have with the bats. Right now Vassalotti seems to be our diamond right now.
  3. Season is still far away but figured I'd get this started. I want to know who you think will be our top breakout candidates and ones you think will bounce back the most. There has been plenty of talk about Mr. Ray so I am interested where people will place him. He could easily fit into all three depending on your feeling. Hopefully, we get some lesser talked about people mentioned and explained. The way I view the three categories is: Breakout: A guy who has been under the radar, had never really "arrived" yet, or due to injuries has never been able to really perform. (Example Burns, Gatewood, Stokes, and Harrison.) Bounce Back: A guy who is coming off a bad season or two or injury plagued season that you think think will regain prospect status. (example Brett Phillips or Ponce) Bust: A guy who drops way down on the prospect after this season, days numbered as real prospect here (Tyrone Taylor and Coulter) Sleeper: A guy no one talks about much at all who could start to earn discussion and find way in top 25-30 (Jordan Yamamoto) Breakout 1. Tristian Lutz. I love his profile and advanced bat for his age. Unless something goes wrong, hard to see him not open up in Midwest league. A lot to like about the kid. All those skills were well on display. His Arizona stats were a thing of beauty for a kid just jumping from high school to pro ball. 11% BB and 19% K is outstanding! Traditionally the best hitters in baseball walk 10% of the time while K'ing under 20%. I hold those numbers at a high value for prospects and that is one of the first things I check when looking at them. I guess I can mention the .226 iso, .333/.432/.559 slash line, and 139 wRC+. He got a little to aggressive at the plate in Helena where he say his ISO increase to .266 with 4 doubles, 3 triples, and 3 homers. He had 9 bombs, 5 doubles, 4 triples in only 160 ABs. His walks dropped to 6% while K's shot up to 27% in Helena. A major key to his success imo is that he keeps ball down and on a line. He held a 23% LD%, 34% GB%. When he did hit FB's 20% where HRs. I fully expect him to continue to hit this season and make himself known as a major emerging prospect. Wisconsin has been tough on young hitters but think he has the right makeup and natural hit tool to excel in first full season. Bounce Back 1. Jacob Nottingham. Will turn 23 this season but after two let down seasons, many have labeled him in the bust category already. Easy to understand with the .209 batting average and only 9 homers for a "power bat." However after analyzing his numbers, he appears to be a big bust out candidate after his numbers really are better than they look. 1st you look at his percentages, he was able to drive up his walk total to nearly 10% which is the highest it has been since first entering rookie ball. Moreover, he dropped his k rate down to a respectable 22% from the 30 he had in year one. He said in an interview last off season that he pressed too much to try to impress Brewers and from looking at numbers that makes sense. His k's were 8-10% higher than they had been in his career, his walks and obp were way down. His pull percent was at 47% which was 10-15% higher than it had ever been. He hit 11 HRs but almost no doubles and has only a .11 iso. If you look away from his awful .209 ba what do you see? A 10%/22% BB/K% is a nice start. his obp was an incredible .117 higher than his batting average! He had an ISO of .16 while hitting 21 doubles and two triples. He got back to a much better approach using the whole field by having a pull/center/oppo % of 41, 27, 32. Lastly, for how bad his batting average was...he still finished with a wRC+ of 103! So why was his batting so awful? Well two reasons from the numbers. 1) Like Diaz but even to a worse extent, bad luck. When you are a career babip of .335 hitter and have that number bottom out to .255... that is extreme. Diaz was .275 and I thought that was bad. 2) His line drive% and GB% dropped 4% each and his FB% increased that 8% meaning he was squaring up ball very well. He may have still been driving ball well but right at people. I say this because his IFFB % was still around 20%. Line drives and GB's usually find holes easier. Moreover, he appears like a future platoon option as of right now. That will hopefully change this year and he learns to hit righties. He crushes lefties hit .295 with .947 OPS 6 HRs 11 of his doubles. Against righties... .170 ave .538 ops and only 3 HRs 10 2Bs in double the ABs. Bust Marcos Diplan This one one pains me to say. He had been a favorite of mine and has all the talent you look for. However, two years in pitcher heaven leagues and watching others around him like Peralta rocket ahead for him, I feel his star really drops off this year unless major changes occur. He is only 21 so very young and plenty of time to turn it around but warning signs are great. He showed in rookie and A ball he could simply get by with overpowering and being wildly effective. Much like Medorois was able to do. Now in his 2 season in A+ hitters aren't willing to chase as much and are more selective with him. That is only going to grow at each level he goes up. With little command he has seen his strong K numbers decline, hits to increase, walks to stay 10% or higher and whip to be 1.50. He falls behind the count, hitters wait until he has to come with a strike, if he does, they drive it. Since going to A+ hitters are hitting .265 off him, 10% of FBs are homeruns, is only Striking out 21% of batters compare to 11% BB. His babip has been .330. Unlike Peralta who struggled with him after there call up that first time around. Diplan never adjusted or grew. He simply regressed more. I look at the numbers of other pitchers compared to him. Ponce I don't think is that great and most of the hit numbers and just are similar however Ponce is able to throw strikes and attack hitters. Peralta is only pitcher close to Marcos in terms of walks but he is unhittable. He K's over 12 per 9 while allowing hitters to only hit .170. Marcos couldn't throw strikes and was very hittable. At this point, to me, he is best high ceiling pitcher to trade. I also have hard time seeing him able to stick in rotation. Sleeper 1B Gabriel Garcia Not sure any prospect sub 20 has gotten less love compared to production. This kid has just produced over the past two years and been model of consistency. Combined .300/.410.500 slash line over 1st two years. Impressive 12.5% BB% and very respectable 22% K% for a teen. He increased HR's to 9 this season from 2 and hit 17 doubles to maintain his .20 ISO from Arizona at 18. 151 and 126 wRc+ the last two season. He has also stole 10 bases over the past two seasons. Lastly defensive versatility. He is 6'3 185 pounds so he has a great frame. Mostly playing 1B, they have gave him 9 innings at SS, 5 innings in the OF, 5 innings at catcher, and 21 games at 3B. I am guessing he will continue to get reps at 1B/3B during his time in minors but hard not to see what the kid can do out of rookie ball! If he continues, I think by end of year he will move from a mentioned guy for top 25 into the top 25. Wrap Up All these are a little obvious and I apologize. I will be back to write up more later but as of right now it gets the discussion going.
  4. Lol that popped in my head when I was typing but the coach with him was right and once again he was a catcher. Catchers to me often transition easiest to 1b. It is their default 2nd position usually.
  5. Before switching careers to teaching I was in sports management. One of the worst and hardest jobs to do is sales for Florida and Arizona sport teams. The turnover is outrageous due to the amount of implants that live in those states. The large amount of retired or older adults that move down there kill ticket sales because they are all Packer, Brewer, Cubs, Twins, Bears, and etc fans. The amount of loyal fans are low. I had a friend I graduate go work for the Dolphins after we graduated and he said it was brutal and the same from another person I knew who went to work for DBacks. Then you consider the vast amount of recreational options during the season going on in Florida is insane. So many options. You look at north teams....fan bases are beyond loyal. Our sport teams play major part in our lives. From the midwest to northeast. We live for our teams. It is just not like that as much done south. That is why Miami and Rays can be making world series run and still have hard time selling 50-75% of their seats. Not making excuses but that is a hurdle they face. I personally would never invest into one of those teams, bad investment in my mind. The Sports Journal kind of makes that clear. It is only like a month or so into their era. It will be interesting to see what they do moving forward. They have made it clear they are selling all big contracts and wiping the books. Starting fresh with clean slate. That is why I have stressed making a play at Yelich so much. He is going to go along with Ozuna. They are already shopping Castro's contract. It is a full tear down which for Miami may be good. Does hurt receiving nothing for Stanton but clearing 25-30 million a year is nice. Yelich and Ozuna (after Arby) will clear another 18-20 million this season. They do need to be more public about their plan and what they are doing. 76ers sold their "process" Cubs and Theo sold their tear down greatly. Jeter as the face needs to get out there and do the same. I agree they have done terrible at it so far.
  6. Crazy for a team to consider moving an unusually tall, plus athlete who is a poor defender in the outfield to 1B when we have a logjam of too many outfielders, I know. Most OF's have been OFs for most of their lives. You can't naturally go from never fielding ground balls your entire life to doing it everyday. I think it is easier to be an infielder and move to OF than it is an OF going to the infield. Like it has been said, it is more than just being tall and catching a ball. First base takes a lot of work. Catchers can do it because they are use to receiving pitches coming at them 85 to 100 mph hour (plenty of SS/3Bs have cannons) and they are use to blocking and fielding balls in dirt. Plus many grew up with 1B as their other main position. 3Bs can do it often because it is similar to fielding the ball in the hot corner. Footwork and receiving balls is most challenging aspect of it. You look at Jake Gatewood. Has always been a very good fielder at SS and 3B but had ton of errors at 1b. A lot were missed catches. Again this isn't HS where most infielders are throw 70-80 across the diamond. You are adjusting to ball being thrown max effort across infield over 90 mph not on the money. You have to learn to adjust to throws going all over while staying on the base. Santana was signed as an OF at 16, prior to that he was showcasing as an OF. I highly doubt he has even fielded a ball in real life action. Wore a 1B glove. Had to catch a spinning 94mph ball off balanced from Arcia. But he is tall so, he will be fine Braun now grew up playing infield for first 24 years of his life. He would adjust easier, however.....he has made it very clear how much he hated 3B. At 1B he no no longer has to worry too much about throws but still not sure he'd be a fan of it. He'd be worth trying there but the Brewers have refused to do so for years no matter how many times they have been questioned about it. It'd keep him healthier probably. Overall the idea that just because you are tall means you can play 1B is kind of a joke to me. It is a whole new world if you have never played IF before. Solution is for MLB to stop being dumb and let NL get a DH. With all the crossover now, it doesn't even matter. The leagues are barely separate these days. Time to stop living in past, putting our pitchers in danger of injuries, and giving NL a disadvantage at bringing in top offensive talent. Nelson proves the danger of pitchers hitting. Different argument for a different day though
  7. Looking at pipeline Top 10 position rankings, Brewers players rate: Catcher: 0 1st Base: 0 2nd Base: #3 Huira, #4 I. Diaz SS: 3B: OF: #6 Brinson LHP:0 RHP:0 Not important but good nice to see both Huira and Diaz so high
  8. Not unusual to continue to add investor to the group though. I highly doubt MLB agreed to sale if financials weren't there. They become liable if that group fails and would have to buy back team and lose massive amount of money. Mark A and the Milwaukee Bucks have continued to add investors over the years. I don't think it means they don't have enough to run team but more investors more money. Loria was foolish and put them in bad shape that then new ownership group needs to correct. If Jeter wasn't in the group and Stanton went to Yankees. No one would care or be upset. They could have sold team to Bill Gates and I'm sure he would be smart enough to trade Stanton's contract. They don't have attendance or TV deals to give away that kind of money. They are small market team. They are close to bottom in attendance. They need to spend like the Brewers, not New York, LA, or Boston. They may be most successful small budget team at developing talent, winning, selling off to rebuild, then repeat. With change in owners and front office, they went away from that. Under Loria, they have had no clue what they wanted to do. No direction or leadership.
  9. Jesse Williams hitting right up there like one of the better young prospects in baseball, Garrett Whitley (really wanted him coming out of HS). I really love this signing and excited to see him stateside this year!
  10. It's a pretty good trick, to the tune of 5.3 bWAR/4.7 fWAR over the last two seasons and counting. So far the two he traded him for have 0 WAR, and at the rate they're going, they're likely to finish with not much more than that. When we traded him though he was 27, a 1.4 a season WAR guy and we got a player who at time had reached AA at 20, crushed ball every step, had big time pop, and was one of the top rated catchers in the minor leagues. (Think pipeline had him at 6 or 7). Davis had no spot on this team. Hindsight is beautiful but at the time realistically he was blocking our best OF prospect in Santana. We flipped a 1.4 WAR a season guy into at the time at the time a legit heir at catcher with massive offensive potential and possible solid middle relieve pitcher in Derby. I don't think many scouts out there thought Nottingham's bat would fall off way it has. Still young though at 23. Only way to really be upset about this is if you feel Davis should be a Brewer over Braun or Santana. They had no spot for him and got a good package for the player he was at the time.
  11. No thank you...if that is the best we can get for Domingo I hold on to him for sure. I don't see an upgrade to our organization at all. Domingo should only get better enter age 25 season. No need to sell him with all his control to not profit from it at all. Get a haul or let him keep smashing at Miller Park. Yeah not seeing it either from San Fran but that is about the best they can do imo. Any deal would have to include Arroyo. Ryder Jones has never hit for much power but could be valuable swing 1b/3b utility bat. I would not touch Beede. I think he is not good at all. Shaw has ton of power but will K 1/3 of the time and not walk at all. Fabian, Gonzalez, Krook are the very few young talented players I like in system. They just don't have enough for Santana. Villar is kind of useless for them since Arroyo is ready to replace Panik if he is traded. Think Broxton fits well with what they have to offer though. You can work out a Broxton for Matt Moore swap. Or snag few low level diamonds like they did in Lind trade.
  12. Remember to insert K. Davis as a mistake or someone will have to remind you about how many homers he hits ha I'm fairly confident DS will continue to make smart trades and signings to improve this team. He has in sort time created pretty impressive track record. Who really knows what he is up to this off-season but he probably has something up his sleeve we will really like. Usually does! My feeling is he will fill rotation that he will keep Hader in pen. From reading all his quotes it just seems that is what they are leaning towards.
  13. No thank you...if that is the best we can get for Domingo I hold on to him for sure. I don't see an upgrade to our organization at all. Domingo should only get better enter age 25 season. No need to sell him with all his control to not profit from it at all. Get a haul or let him keep smashing at Miller Park.
  14. Does Matt Moore for Broxton make sense for anyone? Still only 28, we are in desperate need of a lefty full-time in rotation. He was once elite pitching prospect but injuries have crushed him. Missed all of 2014-2015. He has 3 team options at 9,10,11 million over next three years. So if he doesn't work out this season, we just don't pick up the option next off-season. He doesn't sit 95 mph anymore but still sits 92-93 mph. Giants picked up option more to retain pitching depth so I think they'd be open to dealing him. Broxton for Moore I think is very fair deal. Think if they deal Samardzija who has been their best pitcher over past 2 seasons, they will want to boost that awful system of theres.
  15. Yes, please continue to complain about how DS traded a one trick pony whose only skill he has in this league is the ability to hit HR's. We traded away the OF version of Chris Carter. Can't play defense, zero arm, has never hit .250, career obp is a sad .318 and nowhere close to the player Santana is! For one, while he isn't great in RF with range, he does have a strong arm. Davis literally has the worst arm on competitive throws in baseball. From MLB article on arm strength Khris Davis's first full season was at 26 and only had 22 HRs, and at 27 he had only 27. Domingo at 24 had 30HRs. In his first two seasons with Brewers, he had 3.1 WAR....Domingo in first full season 3.3 WAR. In two years Krush had 76 walks...Domingo had 73 this season. In 2 years Davis had 10 steals...This year Domingo stole 15. Davis in those two years slashed .246/.310/.475....This year Domingo .278/.371/.505. Domingo has power potential that can match Davis. He walks more than Davis, His worse season hitting will be a career year hitting for Davis. So please continue to try to make DS sound like a terrible GM for trading such an incredible Khris Davis. [sarcasm]I don't know how Brewers have been able to survive without a guy who can do nothing outside of hit homeruns....[/sarcasm] Khris Davis rant over. The Giants system is so awful and old its unreal. Most of their top prospects are 24 or 25 years old in AA or AAA with so so numbers. There are only 4 guys in their to 30 I have any interest in. Arroyo of course but we wont get him for Broxton. Sandro Fabian a talented 19 year old OF. Jacob Gonzalez is 19 and son of Luis. He hit .330 in rookie ball after being drafted. Matt Krook who most of us liked coming out of Oregon. We could always use high ceiling lefty even if some numbers arent great right now. Stephen Wood a 22 year old righty wouldn't be bad either. If you can swing Broxton for Krook & Fabian. I'd be good with that. Don't really see upgrade in Panik over Villar As someone said before Panik is a lot like Villar in that he was an outstanding all-star in 2015 (Villar 16') then was pretty darn bad the next in 2016 like Villar was last year. Last season he was solid which Villar could very well bounce back and do. What I love about Panik is he refuses to strike out. He walks less, has less power, and less speed than Villar but will hit for high average and put ball in play with great defense. Some greatly inflate Panik's value. Over past 2 seasons he is rated 15th best 2B, Villar the 20th. He has a wRC+ of 96 and Villar is at 100. 2016-2017 Combined Name Ave / obp/ slg ... OPS HR..rbi..sb runs Panik .265/.332/.401.. .732 20 115 11 127 Villar .267/.339/.422.. .761 30 103 85 141 So outside of K% and defense I just don't see how Panik makes us much better. Briggs is basing value off of 2015 season...We are entering 2018. So if you are going to pull the he was once that good...you can do the same with Villar who did it more recently.
  16. I am a little confused by the wording of this.... I agree he is looking for young controllable arms first but did you mean before he signs a big price tag FA? There is no other way to get a young controllable arm without giving up a prospect. The Royals are sounding pretty close to going into full rebuild which is kind of heart breaking. Since the Greinke trade they have been my 2nd favorite team to follow. I loved their young core, mix of old Brewers, and of course my fav, Ned Yost. But moving on, I really like Duffy and think he is what our rotation needs much more than Archer or Arrietta. How long can the Brewers continue to avoid left hand starters. Suter will most likely be swing man. Hader is looking more likely to be in pen depending the starters they are able to bring in. Duffy I think is a #2/#3 type talent. Last time Brewers had a full-time lefty in the rotation was 2012 with Randy Wolf. In 2011 they actually had two with Wolf AND Narveson. So the Brewers front office has failed to put a lefty in our rotation for past 5 seasons...that is just mind blowing to me. Every rotation should have at least one. I prefer 2 lefties.
  17. I’m not personally a big fan of Schwarber but guy has played one full season at 24. Played decent chunk at 22. 23 missed almost all season before lighting up the playoffs. There is offensive talent there. Scouts know that. Point is they have no system. I think he hold enough talent to package around. I wouldn’t trade for him. As no NL team should. Guy simply can’t play defense. I think Baez & Happ are the preferred targets. I still think Broxton has plenty of value but is just odd man out with Phillips & Brinson ready. I’m not down on him at all & think he can be packaged around for a good piece! All the talent is there & he is a late bloomer. Like Schwarber you are buying that with more ABs his streaks become more consistent & Ks drop a bit. He is outstanding defender & a treat to steal 30+ bases along with 20+ HRs. Biggest difference in stock for me is Schwarber has shown ability to be outstanding hitter before. You don’t get drafted, fly through minors hitting .330 with 1.040 OPS career by fluke. Knowing that, you buy that he will make adjustments to pro pitching. Broxton hasn’t had that track record until CS & streaks/binges. Like true Weeks form he can be best player in baseball for a month, then the worst player in baseball for a month. Never has shown sustainability in minors or pro level. If we are making a big trade still prefer a deal with Broxton to Marlins for Yelich. Then use Brinson or Phillips to net Archer
  18. I’m not personally a big fan of Schwarber but guy has played one full season at 24. Played decent chunk at 22. 23 missed almost all season before lighting up the playoffs. There is offensive talent there. Scouts know that. Point is they have no system. I think he hold enough talent to package around. I wouldn’t trade for him. As no NL team should. Guy simply can’t play defense. I think Baez & Happ are the preferred targets. I still think Broxton has plenty of value but is just odd man out with Phillips & Brinson ready. I’m not down on him at all & think he can be packaged around for a good piece! All the talent is there & he is a late bloomer. Like Schwarber you are buying that with more ABs his streaks become more consistent & Ks drop a bit. He is outstanding defender & a treat to steal 30+ bases along with 20+ HRs. Biggest difference in stock for me is Schwarber has shown ability to be outstanding hitter before. You don’t get drafted, fly through minors hitting .330 with 1.040 OPS career by fluke. Knowing that, you buy that he will make adjustments to pro pitching. Broxton hasn’t had that track record until CS & streaks/binges. Like true Weeks form he can be best player in baseball for a month, then the worst player in baseball for a month. Never has shown sustainability in minors or pro level. If we are making a big trade still prefer a deal with Broxton to Marlins for Yelich. Then use Brinson or Phillips to net Archer
  19. That is pretty elite level! Hope he can repeat that moving forward! A 6’6 pitcher whose fastball has a chance to sit 94-97 as he matured with that kind of spin rate is deadly for hitters! Spin rate is awesome, before I studied it, Peralta didn’t make sense to me. Throwing gas but unable to miss bats. He has one of the lowest spins in baseball for both 2 & 4 seam which is great for ground balls but easier to hit.
  20. If you are in AL Schwarber is by far better than Broxton. He is 24 so his season last year doesn’t define his potential. He was drafted 4th... destroyed minor league pitchers. Mashes the ball at tune of a .25 iso & walks over 12% of time. The Ks & average are an issue but he is only 725 ABs into career. Even if the Ks & average don’t improve much, teams still find room for Gallo type players & will pay for them on promise. NL he is pretty useless since he cant catch & cant play OF... Not sure how or why people think Broxton & Villar touch Schwarbers value. Both are older. We’re not elite talents coming up. Nor do either have the power ceiling or even hit ceiling of Kyle. Sometimes 700ABs isn’t enough for guy to click. To write off value at 24 when he shredded whole career prior to MLB & has had flashes of that talent is a little premature.
  21. Brewers have stressed his development defensively a ton to try to make sure he can stay back there. Reports on his defense have gone up. Wonder how much that has impacted his bat and how much they let the bat play in Oakland with less stress on mastering the defensive aspects. Catchers are the slowest to develop offensively due to the workload that comes with the position. Like Brett Lawrie coming, "nah I don't want to catch anymore, it's two long...2B is faster path (not a real quote but around what he said)." I still think there he can find it again. Hard to believe the bat skill he had coming over here just completely disappeared. Your crush the lower levels with so much ease at a very young age then just drop. This will be his make or break year as a prospect though with the Brewers.
  22. They must go Schwaber (spelling), Baez, or Happ. Those are only pieces they have at all worth anything to build around
  23. No way you trade Middleton in any deal. Him and Giannis are top scoring duo in league right now. He is only starter who really stretches the floor. Not to mention he is long and great defender. Our big three with Giannis, Middleton, and Bledsoe has been unreal. I think when Henson, Giannis, Middleton, Bledsoe, and Brodgen are on the floor they are something insane like 118 for 100 possessions. Overall Don't mess with a great thing. Parker should be back after All-Star game. He won't be what he was last season prior to injury (Has to get legs back under him and be comfortable in trusting it again) but offers enough shooting to create even more space on floor. I'd bring him off the bench with Brogden, Thon, and etc. Really give us more depth. A center who plays the style that Jordan does would fit perfect and is really what we are missing. All our centers are very weak and not really great rebounders but not worth the price tag. I'd rather trade for lazy Noel for cheap with Mavs and hope he removes his head from..... Kidd usually is good at that and getting more out of guys. Tyson Chandler as well would still fit nicely for lower price tag.
  24. I thought about putting that in blue but figured it was kind of implied when next paragraph starting out realistically and the just saying. Brewers aren't going to give out the first 400 million contract in MLB history.... 100 million contracts are still too rich for our blood. Those have only been offer to generational players like Braun, Fielder, and CC.
  25. I once had a background on my computer of Odorizzi facing the Miller Park scoreboard wearing his Brewers jersey with name on back after being draft. He is probably my least favorite player we had to trade away in past decade.... Not the ace I thought he might be but trade for him over Archer as solid #3 for cheaper price tag. Fact: There will always be people on this site who will insert Ray into every possible conversation just to prove their point that he is the Brewer worst pick in history and a worthless, overrated prospect. It is annoying but unless he is traded it will continue. He could hit .300 with 20HRs, cut k's down and steal 40 bases and people find a way to argue that his walks aren't enough or he was a college guy drafted in Top 5...he should be hitting .330 etc. or just play it off as a fluke. Domingo moved fast with far better numbers (besides for K's) than Harrison has. I think he is just naturally a better bat. However they apples to oranges in terms of prospects. It is hard to compare an elite minor league bat with an elite minor league athlete. Domingo never had to develop his hit tool. Even with Ks, he has always smashed. As an athlete though he has never been dynamic. Defensively he has always been ehh. Good arm, not great routes, hustle, or range. He has always been a slightly less athletic Corey Hart. Harrison was never praised for his polished bat like Domingo. He was an athlete with raw power, pretty good plate discipline, but needed to develop bat. He was however, an elite athlete. Not many guys can get offered scholarships in 3 different sports. Defensively....he is game changer. On bases, he has ability to make a big difference. Like most athlete first players, bat takes longer to develop. Harrison was drafted based on his athletic ability and ceiling. Santana's golden ticket has always been ability to hit for average, walk, and his power. Harrison's bat could get up to Santana's level in time and if it does....he is the better player. Ceiling I see is hit .280 with 30 HRs 30 SBs, with Gold Glove defense. Santana can give you the bat but he can't however all the other aspects you receive with Monte. Problem is you know what Domingo will bring to the plate and his track record will show that. We still have no clue if Harrison's bat will for sure get there. If he is Mike Cameron.....hits .240-.250 20+ HRs, 20+ steals, and elite defense....Do we still prefer that over the Corey Hart bat that will give us .290 30+ HRs, .875+ OPS with some baserunning ability and average defense? Back to topic....I really prefer not to trade Harrison or Diaz before AA season. Carolina doesn't show a hitters worth at all. Still think we would be selling low. Both could explode at Biloxi this season.
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