Stache, while I share your frustration with the current state of both the big league club's results and the minor league's lack of stars, your forgetting one thing. Neither the Marlins or the Astros have any talent to speak of at all at the Major League level, while the Brewers have almost as bad of record, they do have good talent on the club. Take the Marlins. At the ML level they have one proven stud (abeit hurt) in Stanton, but that is it. I am going to say that for the Brewers you could say that Jean Segura is the equivelent of Stanton. That means if we really only cared about building the farm system (since we are going nowhere at the ML level) we could trade away Braun, Gomez, Aoki & Ramirez. How many top 100 prospects you think we should get back in those trades? I say 7. Braun - at least 3 (including at least one top 10), Gomez - 2 (the contract extension helps) and one each for Aoki and Ramirez. At that point we would have just an awful ML team (Marlinesque), but we would have a stocked farm system to go along with top 5 picks in the next couple drafts most likely. I am not saying we should do this but if all you care about is the state of the farm system when the ML team is scuffling, there is your answer. My point? It is easy to say the sky is falling right now. It is never as bad as it seems and never as good as it seems either. This extends to your view on the ptiching prospects. I trully believe that by the end of the year you will have high hopes on at least a couple of Brewer pitching prospects. Too many of them to not have a couple sneak through. And while you alluded to better recent results for Jungman your failed to mention the May numbers for Pena or T.Wagner or Nelson's full year.