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Brewers franchise value and ability to spend money
KeithStone53151 replied to LouisEly's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Good point here. Never underestimate how cheap certain owners can be...I'm not talking Mark A, think Jeter and whoever owns the Pirates...... -
Since Williams was in camp, I wonder if he's already thrown a couple BP sessions and just didn't look very good. Or maybe some of the other guys did look very good. Since camp has been open a few days, they have more information to go off of than they did a week ago.
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Will be interesting to see how his shoulder responds to a role change, after starting his entire career up to this point. This might be best for him. I hope he has success, even if it's for the Dodgers.
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Will be interesting to see how his shoulder responds to a role change, after starting his entire career up to this point. This might be best for him. I hope he has success, even if it's for the Dodgers.
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His stuff was much better for most of those sub 4 era seasons. His first season with the Brewers and 2nd half the prior season were the classic "reinvent himself as a pitcher" seasons where he threw half sliders half fastballs. For starters, that catches up with your arm. Also, Chacin needs extended stretches of basically spotting those pitches exactly where he wants to have success as he's a 2 pitch starter and only the slider is plus. In 2019, he could spot the slider consistently but not the fastball. We saw the results. On top of that, even when he was on in 2018...I was still generally surprised he posted a 3.5 ERA considering his metrics. K rate, BB rate, BABIP, contact stats. Looking at those for 2018 don't paint the picture of a 3.5 ERA guy. You look at Woodruff stuff and those same metrics for 2019 Woodruff, it's clear who the better pitcher is and it's not close.
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His stuff was much better for most of those sub 4 era seasons. His first season with the Brewers and 2nd half the prior season were the classic "reinvent himself as a pitcher" seasons where he threw half sliders half fastballs. For starters, that catches up with your arm. Also, Chacin needs extended stretches of basically spotting those pitches exactly where he wants to have success as he's a 2 pitch starter and only the slider is plus. In 2019, he could spot the slider consistently but not the fastball. We saw the results. On top of that, even when he was on in 2018...I was still generally surprised he posted a 3.5 ERA considering his metrics. K rate, BB rate, BABIP, contact stats. Looking at those for 2018 don't paint the picture of a 3.5 ERA guy. You look at Woodruff stuff and those same metrics for 2019 Woodruff, it's clear who the better pitcher is and it's not close.
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The only thing A Swing and A Drive is a lock for is whining about Brett Anderson. Add me to the list whining about Brett Anderson. This is the one move that had me really scratching my head this offseason.
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The only thing A Swing and A Drive is a lock for is whining about Brett Anderson. Add me to the list whining about Brett Anderson. This is the one move that had me really scratching my head this offseason.
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It was blatantly obvious as it was happening that chacin was having the year if his life. His stuff made it very clear he has no business succeeding to the degree he did. Woodruff meanwhile had the look of a sub 3 era but the results fell short, at least in part due to his injury. As for the other 3, I said their ceiling was 2018 chacin. I tend to agree they are more likely in the low 4s. I also was referring to all but Anderson when I referred to 3 of 4. Anderson's ceiling is probably closer to 4. Houser and lauer have the stuff and lindblom...we don't know how his stuff is going to play against mlb hitters, that splitter might be the real deal.
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It was blatantly obvious as it was happening that chacin was having the year if his life. His stuff made it very clear he has no business succeeding to the degree he did. Woodruff meanwhile had the look of a sub 3 era but the results fell short, at least in part due to his injury. As for the other 3, I said their ceiling was 2018 chacin. I tend to agree they are more likely in the low 4s. I also was referring to all but Anderson when I referred to 3 of 4. Anderson's ceiling is probably closer to 4. Houser and lauer have the stuff and lindblom...we don't know how his stuff is going to play against mlb hitters, that splitter might be the real deal.
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They also are much more prone to finding holes in their swing, as their strike zone is so much bigger than the shorter guys.
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They also are much more prone to finding holes in their swing, as their strike zone is so much bigger than the shorter guys.
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Brewers franchise value and ability to spend money
KeithStone53151 replied to LouisEly's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Operating income and net income are two different things. Non-operating and other items will hit "below the line" and impact net income only. The big two are probably interest and taxes though there could be other extraordinary items. It would make more sense if after factoring in interest and taxes(especially interest), they might take a slight loss. I don't however think they operated at a loss. That said, and believe me when I say I understand what you're referring to, don't lump me in with the group that's upset that Stearns/Mark A didn't spend like drunken sailors. I don't have much issue at all with the offseason. I might have done things slightly differently, but I trust their process and am excited about this team. I definitely give Mark a ton of credit for answering so directly even if I don't technically believe him. I also liked how he specifically referred to how they are doing year over year financially, that they can't just look at one year. I took that to more or less mean that an operating loss is OK on occasion when factoring in years like 2015/2016 when we had ultra low payrolls and likely booked a pretty healthy profit. You just can't get crazy where you lose money year after year, start needing to take out debt to keep a healthy cash flow, and then have some bad years and have downswings in revenue. -
Brewers franchise value and ability to spend money
KeithStone53151 replied to LouisEly's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Operating income and net income are two different things. Non-operating and other items will hit "below the line" and impact net income only. The big two are probably interest and taxes though there could be other extraordinary items. It would make more sense if after factoring in interest and taxes(especially interest), they might take a slight loss. I don't however think they operated at a loss. That said, and believe me when I say I understand what you're referring to, don't lump me in with the group that's upset that Stearns/Mark A didn't spend like drunken sailors. I don't have much issue at all with the offseason. I might have done things slightly differently, but I trust their process and am excited about this team. I definitely give Mark a ton of credit for answering so directly even if I don't technically believe him. I also liked how he specifically referred to how they are doing year over year financially, that they can't just look at one year. I took that to more or less mean that an operating loss is OK on occasion when factoring in years like 2015/2016 when we had ultra low payrolls and likely booked a pretty healthy profit. You just can't get crazy where you lose money year after year, start needing to take out debt to keep a healthy cash flow, and then have some bad years and have downswings in revenue. -
Brewers franchise value and ability to spend money
KeithStone53151 replied to LouisEly's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Attanasio claims the Brewers suffered an operating loss in 2019. I at first saw the twitter posts and thought the writers were just being dumb and didn't hear him correctly. But Attanasio did actually say the Brewers suffered an operating loss. I simply don't buy it. There's just no way. I could buy the bottom line number being in the red, but not the operating number. But you all can make up your own mind on whether he's telling the truth. -
Brewers franchise value and ability to spend money
KeithStone53151 replied to LouisEly's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Attanasio claims the Brewers suffered an operating loss in 2019. I at first saw the twitter posts and thought the writers were just being dumb and didn't hear him correctly. But Attanasio did actually say the Brewers suffered an operating loss. I simply don't buy it. There's just no way. I could buy the bottom line number being in the red, but not the operating number. But you all can make up your own mind on whether he's telling the truth. -
Hard to imagine this gaining much traction. Doesn't make it any less hilarious though.
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Hard to imagine this gaining much traction. Doesn't make it any less hilarious though.
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Completely agreed, all points. Woodruff vs Chacin opening day starter is such a game changer. 3 of the other 4 have a ceiling of 2018 Chacin and solid floors, and then Burnes/Peralta have Cy Young ceiling albeit with massive risk. This outlook is so much better than 2019 at this point and it's really not close.
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Completely agreed, all points. Woodruff vs Chacin opening day starter is such a game changer. 3 of the other 4 have a ceiling of 2018 Chacin and solid floors, and then Burnes/Peralta have Cy Young ceiling albeit with massive risk. This outlook is so much better than 2019 at this point and it's really not close.
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I did have the thought, I wonder if Holt can be the emergency catcher? That used to be Perez for the longest time, it's always good to know who that might be. Seems like a good question for Tom H to ask.
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I did have the thought, I wonder if Holt can be the emergency catcher? That used to be Perez for the longest time, it's always good to know who that might be. Seems like a good question for Tom H to ask.
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I can understand Lauer moreso than Anderson. Lauer definitely has the upside. I look at a lock as basically spring doesn't matter, he has the job. It would take something seriously crazy(or injury) for Woodruff to not be the opening day starter. I think Anderson/Lauer/Houser/Lindblom have the inside track on the other 4 jobs, but literally any of those 4 could be replaced. If Anderson looks bad or mediocre in spring while the other 3 look good and Burnes/Peralta are ridiculous...he's in the bullpen in my opinion. As for Lauer specifically, I'm in agreement with you on him. For me, he's probably the 2nd most locked in guy by a wide margin but he's not even close to the Woodruff tier of locked in. Pretty much everyone else would have to look great while he looks bad in spring for any chance of him not making the rotation, but it's possible in my opinion. I don't at all agree with you on Anderson though. For me, he's a junkballer. He's an expensive 6th/7th starter and an insurance policy that you hope you minimally need if at all. For varying reasons, I view Anderson/Houser/Lindblom as the most likely options to get bumped by Burnes/Peralta. Houser has options and would be the best pen arm of the 3, and Lindblom is so unknown how his stuff will play. Anderson is the most "known" quantity, but he also has by far the lowest ceiling and worst stuff. The ideal best rotation in my opinion would be Woodruff/Lauer/Burnes/Peralta/Houser. They have the best stuff of the 7 and most upside, just need to prove and earn it.
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I can understand Lauer moreso than Anderson. Lauer definitely has the upside. I look at a lock as basically spring doesn't matter, he has the job. It would take something seriously crazy(or injury) for Woodruff to not be the opening day starter. I think Anderson/Lauer/Houser/Lindblom have the inside track on the other 4 jobs, but literally any of those 4 could be replaced. If Anderson looks bad or mediocre in spring while the other 3 look good and Burnes/Peralta are ridiculous...he's in the bullpen in my opinion. As for Lauer specifically, I'm in agreement with you on him. For me, he's probably the 2nd most locked in guy by a wide margin but he's not even close to the Woodruff tier of locked in. Pretty much everyone else would have to look great while he looks bad in spring for any chance of him not making the rotation, but it's possible in my opinion. I don't at all agree with you on Anderson though. For me, he's a junkballer. He's an expensive 6th/7th starter and an insurance policy that you hope you minimally need if at all. For varying reasons, I view Anderson/Houser/Lindblom as the most likely options to get bumped by Burnes/Peralta. Houser has options and would be the best pen arm of the 3, and Lindblom is so unknown how his stuff will play. Anderson is the most "known" quantity, but he also has by far the lowest ceiling and worst stuff. The ideal best rotation in my opinion would be Woodruff/Lauer/Burnes/Peralta/Houser. They have the best stuff of the 7 and most upside, just need to prove and earn it.
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I think the only rotation lock is woodruff. Everyone else has to compete to win a job. I tend to think Anderson or Houser will be first man out if Burnes or Peralta force their way into the rotation. Nice to see people realizing the rotation upside