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Justin Topa Traded to Seattle for Minor Leaguer
CheeseheadInQC replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
It is interesting that they left him in A ball all season. I feel like if he had been in the Brewers system he would have spent a chunk of time in high-A like the Rodriguez, Cruz and Cornielle group. -
Justin Topa Traded to Seattle for Minor Leaguer
CheeseheadInQC replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Unless there was an injury, it appears as if he did the standard signing a contract that started in 2018, so I think he would have two years left. He would, of course, be rule 5 eligible. -
Sounds a bit and has a stat line similar to Cornielle. Hernandez was better last year, but is also a year older and a year closer to minor league free agency.
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The K’s haven’t been there in the big leagues yet for Peguero, but he has struck out 10+ each in each of his post-pandemic minor league seasons, and he is one of the few guys in the mix for the final spots who has options.
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What to do about 3rd Base ?
CheeseheadInQC replied to Jeff Meyer's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
The question with Toro is, will the elimination of the shift help him as much as some think? If so, he could be a passable regular. If not, well … -
Well aware. Just like Doston should have been in A ball last year. The top prospects get slotted in where they belong. Everyone else gets slotted in where there is room. Campbell might make more sense, but if they are higher on him they might want to give him some more time at AA, which is probably the level he should be at to start the season. And if they sign a veteran minor league outfielder, that changes things too. Just saying for now, that is where there is an opening organizationally in the outfield.
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As of right now I have him penciled into the fourth outfielder spot at AAA for lack of anyone else, assuming they don’t push one of Chourio, Rodriguez, Campbell, Ward or Doston.
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There is a difference between starting with a six man rotation and finishing with one. If you lose someone to injury you can drop down to five without worrying about stretching anyone else out or disrupting the bullpen. If you get two months into the season and your chosen six are healthy, then you make the tough call.
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The weird thing for me is the number of guys on the fringe of the roster who have no options left. It feels like the 40-man will be 35 on opening day
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Opener for Woodruff?
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I wonder if there was something they see they think would play better in the pen than the rotation.
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Yah, there are two ways to read that Bayless tweet. Either A) he tried to get too cute with the writing and ended up with a bit of a muddled mess or B) he intentionally wrote a muddled mess knowing it would create controversy while giving him an out. Knowing both Skip’s shtick and lack of any real finesse both are possible, but neither is in any way anyone’s fault but his own.
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A lot of the guys I would include are probably a bit further down the prospect list. Felix Valerio: Between his youth, past performance and underlying numbers, I have little doubt Valerio will bounce back offensively. He needs to prove, however, that he can handle second base defensively, especially in a post-shift baseball world. Victor Castaneda: The results have been OK, the peripherals middling. I think he gets moved to the pen this year and must show his stuff plays up there. The year five or six guys: There are a lot of plus athletes who are likely to start in high or low A on Damuelle’s list. Joe Gray, Eduardo Garcia, Micah Bello, Eduarqui Fernandez … Time is starting to run low. Cam Devanney: This is based on circumstance. After getting passed up in the Rule 5 draft, Devanney needs to show his 2022 isn’t just a case of success because he was an older prospect repeating AA. I think he makes the bigs at some point this year, but because of his age, he needs to back up his 2022 success more than most of last year’s breakouts.
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I hope it isn’t self-indulgent, but I am going to split my reply in two: the guys included and then the guys I might have. Quero: As others have pointed out, the Feliciano comp is flawed. With Feliciano the question was will he develop enough to stick at catcher. With Quero it seems to be will he develop enough to win a gold glove. I can understand the rule 5 reasoning, but given that catchers with offensive upside and big league ready defense is one of the few categories of hitters who routinely get picked, I think he would have to have a disastrous 2023 not to be added. The added pressure will come in later seasons by the early starting of the option clock. Mendez: He spent his 18 year old season entirely in A ball. Chourio might have spoiled us, but that is pretty rare. Does he have to get the ball in the air more? Sure. But he will be given time. Honestly you could include just about any prospect at that level given that reasoning, including Avina, whose K rate is unsustainable. Disagree with the Gasser reasoning (if people realize Ruiz isn’t in the system now, they know why. The forgetfulness won’t strike for a couple of years.) I don’t disagree with Turang, though. He needs to show the long extra base hit drought was the fluke, not the power surge at the end of the season.
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I came across a Joe Torre quote when looking up Brown basically saying both Brown and David Wells made you miserable being around them. The difference was, Wells did it on purpose.
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Brown had the double whammy of, if I remember correctly, being named in the Mitchell report and being primarily remembered for the massive contract (for the time) that didn’t work out rather than why he got the contract in the first place.
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Back to Quero, it is tough to find a good comp for him. From 2009 through the present, 12 catchers saw a decent chunk of time in High-A during their age 19 season. Two were not really considered among their organization's top prospects (Santiago Chavez and Francisco Pena), three are currently among their organization's top prospects (Francisco Alvarez, Ivan Herrera and Quero), four either switched positions or were derailed by defense (Feliciano, Jesus Montero, Wil Myers and Tommy Joseph), and two were bat-first prospects who developed enough to stick behind the plate (Gary Sanchez, Keibert Ruiz). Christian Betancourt might be the best comp among the group defensively, but he had maturity questions that you never really hear about Quero. Catchers with plus defense and intangibles have a way of sticking around. It is why Martin Maldonado is still going strong, having played 100 games in each non-pandemic season since leaving the Brewers, despite struggling at times to stay above the Mendoza line and posting a career OPS that I believe is on the wrong side of .650. It is why former Brewers prospect Max McDowell was invited to the Yankees alternate site during 2020 and recently signed as a minor league free agent despite a fairly poor offensive season at AA last year. If he develops at all offensively, and the scouting reports on his defense and intangibles are accurate, it is tough to see him not having a decent length big league career.
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Brian Shouse Wasn't Flashy But He Got The Job Done
CheeseheadInQC replied to Cole McCormack's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
In a roundabout way, I got a wedding present from Brian Shouse. My wife’s maid of honor’s mom taught his son or daughter while he was with the Brewers. Knowing I was a Brewers fan, she asked him if he had any souvenirs that she could give me. I think he cleaned out the leftover giveaways because her parents gave us everything from a Brewers blanket to a set of nesting dolls of the infielders. I always cheered a little harder for Shouse after that. -
I don’t mean to pick on you because tons of people do it, but why does Pettitte always get left off the “steroid guy” lists?
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True, I just used him as the biggest name in that class. Substitute Mendez, Guilarte, Areinamo, Barrios, Castillo or Aquino if you wish.
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After next year it gets a bit better at least (Quero is eligible next year, but Chourio isn’t until two after that).
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Where will our Rookies Play in 2023?
CheeseheadInQC replied to Robocaller's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
I think there is a decent chance Turang starts in AAA, more because I think they might give Toro a look early on than any service time shenanigans. -
Of the post-Lucroy failed catching prospects, Feliciano is the only one who doesn’t fall into one of two categories: guys whose bats failed to progress or guys no one expected to stick at catcher. The former happens at every position. The latter is a bit of hubris from an organization proud of its ability to mold catchers defensively. Feliciano was really the first one who wasn’t looked at as an extreme long shot to stick at catcher who didn’t develop defensively. The case against having Quero higher I guess might be that because catchers have so much to focus on, their bats might develop less often. On the other hand, if the reports on Quero’s defense and intangibles are accurate, even a little improvement offensively probably puts him in the Maldonado level. Regardless, however, what happened with Feliciano has no bearing on my opinion on Quero, both because he is an outlier and because Feliciano’s problem isn’t an issue for Quero.
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Except true realism allows for a variance in potential outcomes. You seem to be branding all possibilities that don’t fit your central theory both in manner and results as being unrealistic. That isn’t how realism works.
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There is pessimism and then there is pessimism that denies the possibility of optimism. This seems to be trending toward the latter. To be really pedantic, all you can tell from that lineup is that Wiemer performed well enough to get called up at some point, given the likelihood that game 162 won’t matter no matter which direction the season goes. I am skeptical about all of the rookies working out simply because even if each has a 75% chance individually, that is just a 30% chance overall. That is why I liked Myers as an option to be a right-handed platoon guy while providing a more known floor in case one of the rookie outfielders doesn’t work out. That being said, the rookies should be given the opportunity to win the jobs, given that they all offer solid upside, either in the field, with the bat, or both.
